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Air Attack: I've checked out the reported spot in Grass Valley - there are smokes in the area, but everything is at least 500 feet inside the burn. |
| Mon 10/29 |
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To Air Attack: Today we have three Type 1's available, one Type 2, and three Type 3's. (Response: Confirming everything's on the ground at this point?) |
| Mon 10/29 |
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Flare up on Grass Valley road, near mile marker 49, let's get someone on it. |
| Mon 10/29 |
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Structure group 3: What we've got is a stump hole that was torching, about 5-600 feet off the 330, but no threat to anything. |
| Mon 10/29 |
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Spot fire is about 1-200 yards south of the turnout itself. |
| Mon 10/29 |
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SO deputy is reporting a spot fire off the 330, near a turnout, near Fredalba Road. |
| Mon 10/29 |
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From: Inciweb Website |
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Update on the Grass Fire as of 7:00 p.m. 10/28: Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0508 hrs.
Location NW of Lake Arrowhead
Incident Commander William Kaage
Current Situation
Total Personnel 452
Size 1,247 acres
Percent Contained 95%
Estimated Containment Date 10/28/2007 at hrs.
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Backing, creeping and smoldering.
Significant Events A closure order remains in effect for the San Bernardino National Forest. The mandatory evacuation has been lifted east to Heaps Peak. The area adjacent to the Grass Valley Fire is still closed. Crews continued with effectie mop up.
Outlook
Planned Actions Crews will continue mop up of the fire perimeter.
Projected Movement There is no anticipated incident movement.
Growth Potential Low.
Terrain Difficulty Extreme
Containment Target Given adequate resources and favorable weather conditions the chosen strategy will likely succeed.
Remarks Damage assessment teams continue their work.
The mandatory evacuation order for the communities of Twin Peaks, Rim Forest, Blue Jay, Agua Fria, Deer Lodge Park, Sky Forest, Cedar Glen and the majority of Lake Arrowhead have been reduced to voluntary evacuation effective 12:00 p.m. on October 28, 2007.
The area will be open to residents and re-entry passes will not be issued and are not required.
(See News Release link for full information. A map of closed areas in the Grass Valley area is available under the map link.)
Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from Heaps Peak to Snow Valley remain in effect.
Voluntary Evacuations for Crestline, Lake Gregory, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment remain in effect.
Road Closures--Hwy 330 remains closed. Hwy 18 is open to residents of Crestline, and Arrowheads areas with proof of a street address.
Access to Big Bear is available from Hwy 38 via the I-10 as well as via Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Resources on Scene-- 38 Engines, 0 water tenders, 10 hand crews and 1 dozer, 0 Helicopters.
174 structures destroyed and 25 structures damaged.
A total of 200 homes threatened for the Grass fire area and 5500 for the Slide fire area.
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| Mon 10/29 |
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From: Inciweb Website |
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Update on the Slide Fire as of 7:00 p.m. 10/28. NOTE THAT CONTAINMENT HAS BEEN RAISED TO 85% and cotainment is estimated for Tuesday 10/30. Current Situation
Total Personnel 1,942
Size 12,789 acres
Percent Contained 85%
Estimated Containment Date 10/30/2007 at hrs.
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Low intensity surface fire.
Significant Events Made good progress containing fire spread on all flanks.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop up and patrol in residential areas. Improve fire line.
Growth Potential Medium
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Current strategy has proven successful.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for most Arrowhead communites have been changed to voluntary.
Mandatory Evacuation remain in effect from Heaps Peak to Snow Valley.
Voluntary evacuations continue for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, Lake Gregory and Valley of Enchantment.
An estimated 201 homes have been burned.
A total of 6000 homes threatened for the Grass fire area and 5500 for the Slide fire area.
Road Closures--Hwy 330 remains closed. Hwy 18 is open to residents of Crestline, and Arrowhead areas. Hwy 18 is closed from the Junction of Kuffel Canyon Rd. in the Skyforest Area to Snow Valley Ski Area.
Resources on Scene-- 292 Engines, 19 water tenders, 33 hand crews and 25 dozers.
There is no estimated date for release of the Damage report.
Utility companies working hard to support re-entry. Very light precipitation in some areas of the fire.
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Nine minute video of the Slide Fire in a Green Valley Lake neighborhood. WARNING: This video is extremely graphic and shows identifiable homes and vehicles being destroyed. View with discretion as it may be potentially upsetting to some people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZEd7rD3Mw |
| Sun 10/28 |
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RS Transcriber offline (really this time). |
| Sun 10/28 |
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There was another suspicious start near the water treatment plant near Fredalba. The west access of SR330 at the end of that road. The Night Ops asked for the same investigator that investigated the earlier fire off SR330 by Station 38 to come take a look. They have someone on scene to protect the origin. The fire's not going anywhere so they want to preserve the origin as much as possible.
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| Sun 10/28 |
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another hot spot for you - RP states she's at 30876 Live Oak Drive, in the canyon by her house |
| Sun 10/28 |
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got a call and they said "it is Cedar Glen and Green Valley in the Heaps Peak area just below Deep Creek" |
| Sun 10/28 |
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On that 40-50 acre slop, did we get a line around it? negative I talked to Big Bear Sup and he said we need one more day; all the others have line |
| Sun 10/28 |
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18/330 west of the village there; going to go take a look (this is ground); South of Drop POint 1 at the 330 break |
| Sun 10/28 |
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RP sees smoke in the R area off City Creek -this is in the burn area; also in Twin Peaks, 26180 Augusta cross of Chipmunk, RP sees smoke north of that location |
| Sun 10/28 |
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took care of it in the green below Mount R there; 534 launched off San Bernardino to give the IP recon |
| Sun 10/28 |
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right there below the intersection fo 18/330;
there's a snag that's laying on the ground has some potential;
has some black above it;
looking good everywhere else, no real surprises; {another discussion}
Springville working by the Boy Scout Camps
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| Sun 10/28 |
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it's below some houses there and it's going to excite some people
going to put a tanker or two on it
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| Sun 10/28 |
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could be on Div H (per air attack) going to put a helicopter load or two in there |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Air Attack - smoker coming up under the Rim below Running Springs; going to run right up - {broke} |
| Sun 10/28 |
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"It was fun guys. See you on the next one." |
| Sun 10/28 |
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{special thanks going out from strike team to strike team as they are going home} |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Fire reported at 330 at City Creek Station 38; smoke showing east of Highway 330. Engines area enroute. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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respond to Marin and Amador for a hot spot |
| Sun 10/28 |
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State Route 18 is closed between Running Springs and Arrowbear is down to one lane; sewer line break; crews on scene trying to fix it. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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going to drop a line just above the "R" |
| Sun 10/28 |
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just coming over mount "R" at 9k feet, almost to ski area |
| Sun 10/28 |
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doing recon highway 18 and mount "R", 510 zero is working division I by the ramp. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Bogey coming in over Mount R just below us about 500, we're at 10,000 (air) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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722 working Div B with Vista Grande, dipping out of GV Lake, he's fresh and they'll have enough work for him for a full fuel cycle; 510 in is Div I over the rim |
| Sun 10/28 |
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one prominent smoke in the Crab Flats area (air to air) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Requesting retardant drop on right flank to keep the fire from moving into brush on the east side. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Live Oak and Valley - conversation with strike team, strike team leader has been trying to get a hold of them. (Transcriber thought.. This morning strike teams were sent down into the canyon below Live Oak to work the snags, this one just surfaced and came into radio contact.) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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CHP is having trouble with OHVs coming in on the Sonoma side; they are getting past the CHP roadblocks |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Div U is looking for one drop from you |
| Sun 10/28 |
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IR finishing the Slide then doing Grass Valley. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Military fixed wing with IR capability coming in (not sure where). |
| Sun 10/28 |
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{missed beginning} 33% humidity, winds light - weather taken on the west aspect of Div T |
1015 AM PDT SUN OCT 28 2007
UPDATED FOR WINDS...WEATHER AND NEXT SATURDAY OUTLOOK
.DISCUSSION...
TODAY A BRIEF HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL BRING A VERY WEAK OFFSHORE
FLOW AND WARMER...DRIER CONDITIONS. MINIMUM RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL
DROP TO NEAR 10 PERCENT IN PORTIONS OF THE MOUNTAINS AND INLAND
VALLEYS. PRESSURE GRADIENTS WILL BE VERY WEAK TODAY AND EARLY MONDAY
WITH AN EASTERLY 5 TO 10 MPH WIND COMPONENT...EXCEPT FOR THE
AFTERNOON SEABREEZE NEAR THE COAST.
FOR MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY...ONSHORE WINDS WILL RETURN
WITH GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS AT TIMES BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON AS A TROUGH
PASSES TO THE NORTH. ONSHORE FLOW AND THE MARINE LAYER WILL BRING
COOLER AIR AND HIGHER HUMIDITIES. THE MARINE LAYER WILL DEEPEN
MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY WITH AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS...FOG AND SOME
DRIZZLE ACROSS THE COAST AND VALLEYS AND PUSHING FARTHER INLAND TO
THE FOOTHILLS OR LOWER COASTAL SLOPES OF THE MOUNTAINS.
LOOKING AHEAD TO THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...EXPECT FAIR WEATHER AND
A WEAK ONSHORE FLOW PATTERN...WITH AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS AND FOG NEAR
THE COAST IN THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS.
NEXT SATURDAY...A WEAK TO MODERATE SANTA ANA WIND EVENT IS POSSIBLE.
OFFSHORE FLOW IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP SATURDAY AND GRADUALLY WEAKEN
SUNDAY...BRINGING VERY DRY AND WARMER CONDITIONS. THE EXACT STRENGTH
OF THE OFFSHORE FLOW IS STILL UNCERTAIN BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR
MODERATELY STRONG GUSTY WINDS THROUGH AND BELOW MOUNTAIN CANYONS AND
PASSES.
SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
INCLUDING THE MOUNTAIN TOP AND FRONT COUNTRY RANGER DISTRICTS OF
THE SAN BERNARDINO NATIONAL FOREST-RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
INCLUDING THE SAN JACINTO RANGER DISTRICT OF THE SAN BERNARDINO
NATIONAL FOREST-
1015 AM PDT SUN OCT 28 2007
.TODAY...
SKY/WEATHER.........PARTLY CLOUDY...BECOMING MOSTLY SUNNY. AREAS OF
SMOKE.
MAX TEMPERATURE.....73 TO 83.
MIN HUMIDITY........10 TO 15 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........VARIABLE 2 TO 5 MPH BECOMING UPSLOPE/UPVALLEY
2 TO 6 MPH.
RIDGETOP.........EAST TO SOUTHEAST 3 TO 8 MPH.
LAL.................1.
.TONIGHT...
SKY/WEATHER.........PARTLY CLOUDY. AREAS OF SMOKE.
MIN TEMPERATURE.....39 TO 49.
MAX HUMIDITY........40 TO 50 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........DOWNSLOPE 2 TO 4 MPH.
RIDGETOP.........SOUTHEAST 5 MPH.
LAL.................1.
.MONDAY...
SKY/WEATHER.........MOSTLY SUNNY. AREAS OF SMOKE.
MAX TEMPERATURE.....68 TO 78.
MIN HUMIDITY........15 TO 20 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........UPSLOPE 2 TO 5 MPH BECOMING SOUTHWEST 10 TO
15 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON.
RIDGETOP.........SOUTH 5 TO 10 MPH BECOMING SOUTHWEST 10 TO 15 MPH
IN THE AFTERNOON.
LAL.................1.
FORECAST DAYS 3 THROUGH 7...
SUSTAINED WINDS LESS THAN 20 MPH EXCEPT WHEN SPECIFIED
.TUESDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS...FOG AND DRIZZLE
ALONG THE COASTAL SLOPES IN THE NIGHT AND MORNING. LOWS 38 TO 48.
HIGHS 68 TO 78.
.WEDNESDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS...FOG AND DRIZZLE
ALONG THE COASTAL SLOPES IN THE NIGHT AND MORNING. LOWS 35 TO 45.
HIGHS 62 TO 72.
.THURSDAY...MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 34 TO 44. HIGHS 62 TO 72.
.FRIDAY...MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 34 TO 44. HIGHS 63 TO 73.
.SATURDAY...BREEZY TO WINDY. MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 35 TO 45. HIGHS 63
TO 73. WINDS NORTHEAST 20 TO 30 MPH WITH POSSIBLE LOCAL GUSTS OVER
45 MPH NEAR PASSES AND CANYONS.
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What's the policy on vehicles here in the (?) areas - have some parked with no one around. Are we issuing warnings or are we going to cite? (Response was unreadable.) |
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