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From: InciWeb |
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Update on Slide Fire as of 3:00 a.m. 10/24:
Summary
Mandatory Evacuation for Green Valley Lake, Arrowbear, and Running Springs. Fire has crossed Hwy 18 in Running Springs and also crossed Hwy 330. Evacuation Centers are located at National Orange Show in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds in Victorville. All highways in the San Bernardino Mountains west of Big Bear Dam are closed to upbound traffic.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0802 hrs.
Location Green Valley Lake, Near Running Springs
Incident Commander William Kaage
Current Situation
Total Personnel 505
Size 4,000 acres
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Extreme, wind driven, group torching, crown runs and spotting. Fire Made significant runs through structures today. Expecting a wind event to last several hours this evening.
Significant Events Over 2000 people have been evacuated at the American Red Cross Evacuation center at the National Orange Show.
Outlook
Planned Actions Firefighter and public safety, structure protection and perimeter control. Crews are working on stucture protection in Smiley Park and Fredalba.
Growth Potential Extreme
Terrain Difficulty High
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from Crestline to Snow Valley. Voluntary evacuations for Highland from North of Highland Avenue, east of Hwy 330 and west of Weaver.
An estimated 200 homes have been burned.
A total of 10,000 homes threatened for the Grass and Slide fire areas.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330.
Hwy 18 to 40th St., 330 bottom (Highland) to top.
Resources on Scene-- 3 Crews, 83 engines, 31 Water Tenders.
Fire has crossed Hwy 18 on the west end of Running Springs, also it has crossed Hwy 330 in the Fredalba and Smiley Park areas.
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| Wed 10/24 |
Source: other |
From: wildlandfire website |
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Posted 9:00 p.m. 10/23:
"just flew in from chester today, reporting of 14 helicopters soon to be at big bear airport" (to work the fires). |
| Wed 10/24 |
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(BB transcriber online). Scanner traffic minimal at this time; mostly discussions about gathering at a morning briefing. |
| Wed 10/24 |
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Attempting to check residence at Crystal Creek and Agate (sounds like a welfare check on occupant), but address is incorrect, can't locate house, and getting no answer at the call-back number for the RP. |
| Wed 10/24 |
Source: scanner |
From: SO |
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vehicle check, at cliffhanger restaurant. subject is running video on the sheriff's office. vehicle is registered out of Los Angeles. |
| Wed 10/24 |
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person at bottom of SR 18 requesting escort to residence in Lake Arrowhead to check on spouse |
| Wed 10/24 |
Source: scanner |
From: SO |
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pedestrian check, goodwin's parking lot |
| Wed 10/24 |
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I'm code-4, its burning fine. {?} |
| Wed 10/24 |
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5W10: checking what appears to be an open gas line in the 500-block of Nob Hill. |
| Wed 10/24 |
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{scanner chatter about getting a rep from So Cal Gas to shut off an open gas line in Grass Valley, informed there is an unburned structure next to it} |
| Wed 10/24 |
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we have a flare up along SR 18 just past MM 29.50 |
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: {Update to prev info on Keller} |
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{via email - thank you} keep hearing that the homes on Keller are burning.. Please note that this is not Keller, but rather Mount R.. http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forestvisitormaps/sanbernardino/north/11.php as shown on the Topo map.. The pool that the Helo was dipping into is the former CEDU campus near Rimwood Ranch.. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we left a firefighter down on Leprechaun with a cell phone and he just called and said he has a flare up down there; we're heading back down and will call you with the size up
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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Chief 3600: are you aware of the gas lines at Rim of the World and Pleasant? Affirm, all these homes that have burned are leaking gas now, we're aware. The gas company wants them to be left open until they have a chance to take a look at them. {Gas Co will be out tomorrow and looking at them. Same with Edison and Power Lines down.} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Chief we've got active run to the north of us (on Live Oak - still approx same area as before) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Checked Allview all the way through Spring Oak, we found nothing. We're staged at Live Oak and Allview now. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Ch 9 news stated that "5 homes just went up on Keller Peak" {NOTE: this is not confirmed by ROTW. News media reports have been incorrect in the past.} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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"We went all the way up Live Oak to 18, it looks pretty good." |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we didn't get to Spring Oak, we found fire before we got there in a chimney, will be an easy knock down (did not provide address or street - Running Springs) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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I've checked out the Leprechaun area (Running Springs); it's really cold back in there; I feel comfortable with just doing a patrol in there every couple of hours just to check it. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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would like to bring you a map to update the perimeter (Ok - will be at the Grandview School) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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take Knollview, then Allview and that will take you to Spring Oak (for recon of area) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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do a quick patrol of the area between Nob Hill and (Upper? Lower?) Rowco; we see a significant header looking in that direction. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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from what I can tell we've knocked the fire down (30590? Live Oak); we'll have to keep an eye on it; it's making a pretty hard push just south of that structure fire |
| Tue 10/23 |
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need you guys to back out of there; that house is going to go {POSSIBLY 30590 Live Oak or adjacent houses} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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making some progress on that tree; perfect; just keep working it with water; gotta keep it cooled down or it's just going to keep walking up it (on Live Oak in Running Springs) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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got embers falling; if it gets up into the trees we're going to lose the house; ok, we have a hard line on both sides of the house. (on Live Oak -uncertain which address) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we're in front of the structure at 30722 Live Oak; going to be out surveying it |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Wilderness Camp at 2129 Wilderness Road; Boy Scout camp on Wilderness Drive cross of Pinehurst (Running Springs); the kitchen is burning and it is near a propane tank. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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they have him in custody at Los Flores Ranch just across from the Cedar Springs Dam |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Los Flores and 173 - one in custody; witnesses; Investigator 174 en route |
| Tue 10/23 |
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at Chipmunk and Cedarbrook - small spots, engine 26 can handle |
| Tue 10/23 |
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1/4 mile east of the camp (between where Camp Seely and the Dam); witnesses here that will probably want to give a statement; start an investigator; looked like he was trying to set another start; going to go check it out |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Dispatch |
To: Eng26 |
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rekindle - Chipmunk Drive cross of Cedarbrook, reported vegetation |
| Tue 10/23 |
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all units on the south be advised it's making another run right to left (Live Oak - Knollview) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we have a house completely down, but it's in the trees there; we're going to hit it with a hard line to keep it from spreading further (no details as to location - didn't *sound* like the same FFs on Liveoak and Knollview area) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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(off Live Oak near Knollview) looks like it's making a good run at those houses; if we can get a line in we can pinch it off right there |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: via email - thank you |
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Just received an eyewitness account of the view of the ridge above Dart
Canyon. Appears to be glowing spots but no big flames - fire has not moved
further west down the ridge and very little activity up there now. Lots of
helicopter and tanker drops earlier seems to have gotten a handle on that
edge. Experiencing some smoke here above the lake now that the winds have
died down. Hunkered down here with the windows closed - eerily quiet now in
Crestline.
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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firefighters are engaged in fighting the fire on the northeast corner of the house (below Live Oak); need someone on the opposite corner of this house {voices were intense} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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direct line from Canyon down to the Lake and all the houses (on Canyon?) circled; we're on Holcomb |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Traffic Collision SR330 at mile marker 43.6 (Running Springs), just south of the Korean Getaway (two vehicles in the area reporting this at mm 43.65) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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I'm going to make an attempt to save this house (down below 30754 Live Oak - "south of 162"); I can get in this driveway and rapidly deploy some lines I think we can save this house. {Transcriber note: GO GUYS GO!} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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there is a structure down behind these houses (Live Oak/Knoll View) that is burning now; it's probably the one I was scouting earlier |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Live Oak, east or uphill, from Knoll View; guessing it's about a half mile to a mile |
| Tue 10/23 |
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be advised the fire is taking off 2 or three houses behind us - 30764 (Live Oak); looks like they're going to go; if you spot a couple houses down from us we can save a couple more homes that don't have to burn; directly to the east of the house that has flames impinging on the deck - I believe that is the outhouse to the house I am at; there's really no good anchor; light flashy connecting fuels; it's slowing backing into the area, it's going to be a while before it gets to where we can have a solid anchor point; send the units up further as it looks like it is going to take off up here real soon |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Old City Creek and Rim of the World in Running Springs - power pole down with lines on the road; need it removed so we can have emergency access |
| Tue 10/23 |
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the head of the fire is in Fredalba Canyon just north of 1N09; 1/4 mile just north of 1N09; otherwise 330 is clear other than in the Fredalba Canyon area |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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do an area check down the 330 to the middle passing lane and provide an update |
| Tue 10/23 |
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via email - thank you! - The wind has ceased completely near LAE - nothing visible even in the tree tops at this time. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Individual resident fighting a fire at his home on Brookings and Spring |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Report of individual putting out spot fire at residence on Brookings in Running Springs. Request assistance |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
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Rimoftheworld.net field reporter Dave can see that fire is moving up the ridge on the back side of Keller Peak. The fire is visible from Highland. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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couple structures taking off on Brookings; getting firefighters in there |
| Tue 10/23 |
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built up some steam; there are several vehicles down there; there are also some tanks; we're putting a line in between 30796 {Live Oak} and the house adjacent; watch that down there below it could hook around and come up that chimney there; if it does get out; the winds are picking up |
| Tue 10/23 |
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there's a string of homes back behind this road; this driveway goes back about 400 feet right to the burn {no details as to location}; Fire is bumping up this dirt access road, virtually unsavable houses if it does get up in here; it gets worse the further down you go |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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Inciweb as of 7pm - Fire Behavior Extreme, wind driven, group torching, crown runs and spotting. Fire Made significant runs through structures today. Expecting a wind event to last several hours this evening.
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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Live Oak north of or past Knoll View - the fire is making a run at those homes there; moderate rate; you should have time to get there and get set up |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Website - Inciweb.org |
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Perimeter map of Slide Fire
http://www.inciweb.org/incident/maps/full/1005/0/ |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: via email - thank you |
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We're still here on Old North Shore Road and we went down to our dock (at the bottom of the lot) and could see flames at Heaps Peak. This was about 20 minutes ago.
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: via email - thank you & I'm sorr |
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I have been on the phone with people who have information on the
neighborhood of smiley park and so far this is what we have heard.
INFORMATION FOR SMILEY PARK
MOST HOMES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PARK ON
PINE CONE CURVE , PANORAMA ROAD and WINDING WAY.
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email at 6:44 pm - thank you! Live in Twin Peaks, just drove to Jensens for groceries they are open as well as McDonalds. Drove over to top of Mittry Ln. Fires moving away from this area. 7-11 and Staters also open. Also no fire/smoke in area of hospital was visable. Twin Peaks is verry quiet. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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the fire is west of Mount R, approx 1/2 mile south of the sewer ponds at 1N09; low threat on the Greenspot, 2-3 miles at this time |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: From ROTW Chat Room - Thank You |
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we are by north bay and 173. All is calm I went to Inyo ct and crews seem to have it under control |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: From ROTW Chat - Thank You |
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From ROTW Chat Room - just talk to my Dad and A friend they (they were at Goodwins) both say it is hanging in there just fine but looks like a ghost town!! We are all good for now in Crestline. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: via email - thank you |
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http://www.thecgo.com/id30.html
Real time updates from the Cedar Glen Observatory |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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Updates from Forest Lawn Scout Reservation (outside of Cedar Glen)
http://www.boyscoutsla.org/website/home_page/FLSR_fire/updates.pdf
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: from SB Sun via email from resid |
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Mail pick-up available to mountain residents
Residents from nine mountain communities effected by wildfires will be able
to pick up their mail from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. Wednesday at a building located
at 195 Del Rosa Ave. on the former Norton Air Force Base.
After Wednesday, mail will be available for pick-up from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
John E. Platt, San Diego district manager for the U.S. Postal Service, has
ordered mail to be transferred from the nine cities to down to the mail-pick
up site.
Mail for the following cities and zip codes will be available to residents:
Blue Jay, 92317, Cedar Glen, 92321, Crestline, 92325, Lake Arrowhead, 92352,
Rimforest, 92378, Running Springs, 92382, Skyforest, 92385, Twin Peaks,
92391, and Green Valley Lake, 92341.
Residents are advised to bring proper photo identification when picking up
mail.
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{via email - 2 hours ago (email went to Spam for some reason) - thank you}
I am here still near Lake Arrowhead Elementary. Everything is quiet and winds are much lighter than earlier. There are very high level wisps of smoke above the community (1000's of feet up, very light) but nothing alarming in any way. I see no evidence of the fires near the hospital that were reported on NBC4's screen ticker.
I still have all my utilities, power has never gone out and both cable internet and cable TV (analog channels only) are restored. Most other residents have left, there is no discernible traffic on Golden Rule. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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taking care of one spot and moving on; cannot hunker down in any one spot or we'll be run over; need to stay on one side of the road or the other |
| Tue 10/23 |
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structures burning at 2331 Avian Road, Running Springs |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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5:05PM PER CP8 INCIDENT NAME FOR 415 2007 WILDLAND FIRES///
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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My parents live in Blue Jay year round their neighbor is a retired Fire Captain and choose to stay.My parents spoke to him via cell phone and Blue Jay has not been hit. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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let me know if there's any impingement on that house on Leprechaun; we are here at that house on Leprechaun they are talking about |
| Tue 10/23 |
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confirmed looters last seen on SR189 - Chrysler New Yorker, older model; beige; traveling towards the MCH area |
| Tue 10/23 |
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helicopter 534 is still doing the water shuttle on the right shoulder of the slide fire |
| Tue 10/23 |
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30320(?) Enchanted Forest; pretty big fire starting up behind that address |
| Tue 10/23 |
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the 10 ambulances sent to MCH were sufficient; cancel any other responding ambulances |
| Tue 10/23 |
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smoldering area in Twin Peaks at 585 Sunset View Road near the baseball field |
| Tue 10/23 |
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2### Whispering Pines at Encina - if we can get someone over here we can save it, otherwise we're going to lose another one over here |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Dart Canyon coming through on the dirt road to Crestline Cutoff; I believe they are coming down on the north section of Lake Silverwood on 3N33; that may be where they are coming from and blocking the road; Lake Arrowhead Road at Silver Springs dam (regarding traffic backup on 18) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD (late entry) |
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4:29PM PER 101-10, TRAFFIC BACKED UP 18 AT DALEY CYN, SHOULD THE ESCORT TAKE 189? UNK WHAT HOLD UP IS, 10 1023 AT DALEY CYN
4:28PM S1 ENRT TO CK OUT TRAFFIC PROB,
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Recon of SR330 to the Middle Passing Lane to see how far fire line is down: there are downed trees on the 330, Caltrans is working to remove those; the fire line runs from Live Oak to Running Springs, nothing below that on the 330 |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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trees catching fire west of 330 and 18 intersection |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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Grass Valley Fire
San Bernardino National Forest
San Bernardino County
This fire has burned 1,000 acres northwest of Lake Arrowhead. 113 structures have been lost, and more than 1500 homes remain threatened. There are mandatory evaucations for all areas north of Hwy 189 (includes North Bay Dr. and Grass Valley Rd.), North of Lake Arrowhead Dam on Hwy 173, and all of Twin Peaks. Also Crestline, Lake Gregory and Rimforest. Voluntary evacuations remain in effect for th remainder of Lake Arrowhead, Cedar Glen, Valley of Enchantment, and Cedar Pines Park. State Highway 18 is closed from 40th/Waterman to the Big Bear Dam, State Highway 330 is closed at Highland to Hwy 18, State Highway 138 is closed at State Highway 173. Residents may leave via these highways, but will not be allowed back into these areas.
Grass Valley Fire Information Line (909) 383-5688.
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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Slide Fire
San Bernardino National Forest
Green Valley Lake near Running Springs
San Bernardino County
This fire has burned 8,500 acres at Green Valley Lake near Running Springs in San Bernardino County. More than 100 homes have burned and 400 continue to be threatened. Mandatory evacuations are in place for Green Valley Lake, Arrow Bear, and Running Springs. All roads into the mountain communities are closed. 17 engines and five water tenders are currently assigned to this fire. Slide Fire Information Line (909) 383-5688. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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I work for the running springs water dist. And have have been driving around
here are some streets that are affected. There are houses lost in RS at:
Deep creek dr.
Secret dr. and Encina way
Chicago
Old city creek toward hwy 330 and up
Knol view 1 or 2
Nob Hill ct - one home
Fredalba rd by the catholic church - both sides
Circle view and valley view
Valley view and wilderness
Camp Helendade - some structures
Easy dr
Many others threatened. The fire is jumping around due to the winds. It
looks like a war zone here.
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: via email - thank you |
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{Email to ROTW regarding Green Valley Lake status - thank you}
UPDATE: 10/23 1531hrs
-Winds are violent at this time
- Fire butting up to homes on canyon,
so far the firefighters with air
support have kept it from taking any homes
- Green Valley Lake Market, Post
Office, Lake Inn are fine at this time
- Many homes lost around fox lumber,
going south all the way to the entrance
of the valley
- Many homes lost around the ski hill,
entire hill is on fire at this time
-Many homes lost on the out on the
outer ends of Loma Alta Lane, Juniper
Lane, Piedras Grande, Holcomb Creek
Drive on the West side of town.
-Centers of the town, residences remain
untouched mostly on the west to north
west of lake remain untouched
- Many homes lost (as I said before)
all along Angeles Drive, Ridgeway
Drive, Robin Drive, Falling Leaf Drive,
Meadow Lane, Cedar Oak Lane, Cedar
Pines Lane and surrounding areas. Some
homes still in these areas, however as
I understand most are gone.
-Power lines are down all over, and it
sounds like there might be come water
issues up there as well.
- Fire has burned all around the back
of the ski hill towards camp cedar
crest, fire streches on both sides of
Green Valley Lake road from Crab flats
to the back gate of Calvary Chapel.
(excluding the calvary chapel area, on
the same side as the camp)
-They are trying to stop the fire from
reaches Camp Cedar Crest and there are
concerns if is gets away it will go
straight into Arrowbear
-Fire is burning in the entire Deep
creek drainage and it is assumed that
all of Crab Flats has burned.
3:02pm FROM GREEN VALLEY LAKE:
Ok I have some information from someone
in town. There are now fire
crews in town, they are fighting a
pretty difficult battle up there as
we speak, they have one chopper helping now.
-Fox lumber is gone, along with the
green valley lake real estate
office.
- Lots of houses lost/damaged on the
East/North side of town, Angeles
Dr, Ridgeway, Robin Dr etc.
- Everything in the heart of town
(housing areas) appears to have
faired well, and untouched with a few
houses lost here and there. (no
specific locations right now)
- Firefight is happening right now to
try to save homes on Canyon Dr.
- Many houses lost just as you drive
into town on the right side of
the road
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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2849 Pine Cove - Running Springs - threat to home; off duty officers trying to fight this one themselves {Note this was corrected at 4:35 pm by Dispatch} |
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{Note from transcriber - there has been little scanner traffic regarding the Crestline, Twin Peaks, Rimforest, Blue Jay areas. Very little in Arrowhead. Most has been focused on Running Springs at this time. We are doing our best to post everything that is heard via scanner.} |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: via email -thank you |
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I would like to pass on some news. According to my sister-in-law (my brother is a Running Springs firefighter) who lives on Cedarwood Dr. in Running Springs, was told by a friend who was still up there, had driven down Cedarwood Dr. and their house, plus others were untouched by fire. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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4:08PM PER 101D2- LIVE OAK AT GLEN OAK, 2 TREES BEHIND A HOUSE ON FIRE, HOUSE ABOUT TO IGNITE |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: {via email -thank you} |
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All homes North of Highland Ave. in Highland have been given a
voluntary evacuation. Information was from the San Bernardino
sheriff's department. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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using Snow Valley for dipping for structure protection in Arrowbear |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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MEDIA ALERT
CHABAD RUNNING SPRINGS CAMPUS OPEN TO AID FIREFIGHTERS
LOS ANGELES, CA, October 23 -- Chabad
of California has opened its 70-acre
campus in Running Springs to all
firefighters and relief personnel
working to combat area wildfires.
Food and shelter are available free of
charge to all authorized firefighters
and relief workers.
Located at the former CEDU School
campus, the grounds will be open around
the clock.
Address:
3500 Seymour Road
Running Springs, CA 92382
Contacts:
Rabbi Yosef Brod (Running Springs)
Main Line: (909) 867-7242
Cell #1: (909) 910-0465
Cell #2: (323) 493-7999
Rabbi Chaim Cunin (Los Angeles)
Cell: (310) 628-0900
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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Incident Command Post being moved from the village (Running Springs) to Rim High School. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Phone Conversation with USFS PIO |
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In a phone interview with John Miller, USFS PIO, there are mandatory evacuations of all the mountain communities west of Big Bear Dam with the exception of Cedarpines Park and Valley of Enchantment, they are voluntary. Fire is running west around the back side of Running Springs, hitting Nob Hill. He does not know if Pali Mountain still exists at this point. Rimwood Ranch is threatened; active structure protection in place.
Structures are burning at the top of Live Oak and Poplar. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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the fire is getting close here to (name) home; it's up here at the top of the ridge and we have nothing to hit it with; What about Live Oak area? There were spots on the west side of Live Oak; not sure, I haven't heard any of that activity; Sounds like Fredalba/Smiley Park area got hit hard; same with areas of Nob Hill and Willow and Poplar; it was flanking us then we have fire coming back at us; What about around my house of Sunspree Oceanview area? There was some down on Old City Creek below you, but it actually looks pretty good; What about Hunsacker and Deep Creek areas, north of the town of Running Springs? They did a good job knocking the heat out. We ran out of foam; not sure we have anybody that can apply the gel. Looks like it lit up over there {behind? by?} Arrowbear, it's going to make a run towards the Nordic Tract. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: CHP CAD (late entry) |
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REPORT OF FIRE 30778 CA-18, RUNNING SPRINGS
1:29PM NO FIRE PERSONNEL 97 YET
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Structures burning on Willow and Poplar in Running Springs |
| Tue 10/23 |
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live NBC4 is reporting that the fire is making a run towards the Castle off Fredalba and 330 in Running Springs; the winds are increasing |
| Tue 10/23 |
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From: {from email - thank you - and I |
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I had contacted you earlier about my property at 26665
Amador Lane in Lake Arrowhead. One of our neighbors
who lives on Windward (just above Amador, in the Black
Oaks development) went to see if his home was there.
It was gone. He said that all of the 26000 block of
Amador is gone. Where our house stood, he said that
there was just ash and a driveway to show where a
house once was.
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| Tue 10/23 |
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2 hours ago it was 1/4 mile away from Live Oak; I drove up Live Oak and there are strike teams of engines all lined up there, it's coming up. Chief, any word of Willow and Poplar area? {no response} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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AA reporting that the fire could make Lake Arrowhead before dark. We're at the high school and have a good visual of the whole thing. Hopefully it will hit the Old Fire burn and we can get a better handle on it. But we've got a real problem here in Running Springs. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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how does Running Springs look? {reply} Not too good. Combination of sand/wind then it diminishes then comes back up. We just lost (gave name) house down there. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Decided to effect evacuation of Mountains Community Hospital; "It's going to take awhile to get it done, want to get started now." (Response) "I think that's a good call." (27 patients to be evacuated.) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we're going to start evacuating Mountains Community Hospital at this time; it's going to take a while to get them out; there are 27 patients |
| Tue 10/23 |
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County Roads working on Wilderness at SR18 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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status of 3320 Stonewall in Running Springs; call the office with status |
| Tue 10/23 |
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imminent threat to Pali Camp at 30778 SR18; need an engine in here; I've already picked up one spot and it's making a hard run at the camp itself. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: CHP CAD |
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1:49PM PLS ADV FIRE, UNIT IS IFO 3101 OLD CITY CREEK RD//STRUCTURE JUST STARTING ON FIRE |
| Tue 10/23 |
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South Ops on the phone again want to steal the DC10 due to a power plant being threatened; Let them know that there is a direct threat to the communities of Running Springs and now Lake Arrowhead |
| Tue 10/23 |
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AA said that the fire from Green Valley Lake is running strong making a big push to Arrowhead and he believes it will make it there today. The fires is about 1-1/2 to 1-3/4 miles from Lake Arrowhead; it will bump the old burn, but there is still some fuel in there. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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County Roads working on Allview Drive at SR18 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{air to air discussion regarding rooms} "All the rooms have been taken by the evacuees." "My mechanic already had a room and they tripled the price on him." |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Boy Scout camp is evacuated |
| Tue 10/23 |
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1-1/2 miles from Station 38 at City Creek; slowly backing towards Fredalba Trail at Smiley Park |
| Tue 10/23 |
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fire is 1/2 mile from rimwood ranch below RS
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| Tue 10/23 |
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don't take the 30 towards Highland - traffic jam |
| Tue 10/23 |
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"Community Meeting Planned for Highland" |
| Tue 10/23 |
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tanker 910 is 13 miles out |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
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From ROTW Google - Got an inside scoop that engines are holding a line on Hunsucker
(industrial RS) to keep the fire from spreading east. My house is a
couple lots behind this on West Dr. near Cove Circle. My neighborhood
is okay at the moment. The neighborhood to the west of this behind the post office I believe
was hit hard (Palo Alto, Whispering Pines, Secret, Encina, Deep
Creek). Those roads are narrow, so I am sure they are doing the best
they can. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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investigator on scene (USFS 12E5) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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50 x 50 spot, controlled (North Shore IC - Yellowstone at 173) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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preserve the point of origin - FS sending investigator (Yellowstone and 173) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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check the area behind the firestation on Oak Knoll |
| Tue 10/23 |
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suspicious circumstances - RP saw a red truck near the Baptist Church just before the fire started |
| Tue 10/23 |
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more houses burned than are not - at least 2 dozen on Fredalba - we're not going down any lower because houses are still burning down there; 50 to 60% burned; it's still boiling down in there; I don't want to go down in there that far. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: CHP CAD |
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12:42PM PER DUPE CALLERS - BRUSH AND STRUCTURES BURNING NOW YOSEMITE AT YELLOWSTONE AREA -- FIRE 97 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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big spot over the Lake Arrowhead area, on the north side (Air unit on Slide side reported seeing large column) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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From: CHP CAD |
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SR18 AT RIM OF THE WORLD DR -11:50AM PER USFS, WILL NOT BE SENDING ENGINES TO SPECIFIC FIRES, THE ENGINES ARE ON "FREE MODE "
11:49AM REAR BUILDING ON FIRE
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Wagon Wheel in Running Springs; Elderly female is at that location |
| Tue 10/23 |
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sounds like North Shore and Yosemite area |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Yellowstone and Yosemite; Zion and Lake Edge; Golden Rule and 173; all in the same area; response enroute |
| Tue 10/23 |
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multiple reports of fire in that same area, looks like a new one (Mt. Zion area) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: CHP CAD |
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1382 YOSEMITE DR - 12:36PM RP SEES SMOKE IN TAVERN BAY AREA |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: CHP CAD |
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28739 ZION DR - House fire |
| Tue 10/23 |
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4 tankers ordered; we're working on the slop over on the west side (Slide Air Attack discussion) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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no spots outside the main fire area in Deep Creek; fire is bumping up against {too scratchy to hear remainder} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Whispering Pines area, for the most part ok |
| Tue 10/23 |
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have the strike team come to 330 at Fredalba and contact the structure group on White 1 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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| Tue 10/23 |
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From ROTW google - Running Springs - My house is on Luring Pines Dr between Valley View & Wagon Wheel. It
is ok, along with the neighborhood around it. My neighbor on Luring
Pines Circle has a friend at the gas Co and they went thru the
neighborhood a little while ago and all is good.
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| Tue 10/23 |
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There is still active fire northwest of Running Springs. However, RS is still in danger. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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lost house {*unconfirmed*} on 31421 Oceanview - cross of Panorama (Running Springs) {*Transcriber note - this is too close to home} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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get up to Cedar Glen and see how close the fire is getting |
| Tue 10/23 |
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need 50 gallons of Class A foam delivered to the Little League HQ (our incident?) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Houses on Circle View - everything west of 315?? appears to be good. Check on 31496 Circle View? Unable to get to that area. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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No need to evacuate the hospital at this time. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Looks like the houses on Pinehurst are fine. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Email from ROTWUSD Asst Superint |
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Rim of the World schools will continue to be closed through Friday, October 26. Schools will reopen once it is safe again for public travel and access. Continue to monitor the media for more information. Ron Peavy, Interim Superintendent - Rim of the World Unified School District
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Mentioned staging on 18 at Allview Dr. {couldn't hear rest of transmission} |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Channel 9 |
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Interviewing SupervisorDennis Hansberger on Ch 9. Meeting with Gov Arnold in 1/2 hr then coming back up to assess area needs.
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| Tue 10/23 |
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| Tue 10/23 |
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spot fires on Fairway and St. Andrews |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{address in Arrowbear - RP had to leave - "3 pounds of black powder" at the residence} |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: via email |
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We're here at the top of Nob Hill, putting out spot fires. They are threatening {name of Firefighter?} house. Can you get up here as soon as possible? We're here on the Circle. (944? Nob Hill) {NOTE: info via email - Thank you! - "Just for reference for those that know the area - It is Fred Oalmers house at the top of Nob Hill by the water tank but I am also hearing on the scanner multiple other addresses on Nob Hill. So far have not heard mine but I am a neighbor of Fred's. He is one of the Search and Rescue teams senior members."} |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
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ROTW Google - I spoke with someone who got up into town only briefly, sounds like a
good deal of the houses are still standing in Green Valley Lake (a
miracle). it sounds like town is however lost. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Evacuees must take SR18 towards San Bernardino. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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AA15 to Comm Ctr: any other available heavy heliankers we can use for the Slide fire? |
| Tue 10/23 |
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18 at the Hardware Store {unknown what this call was for; LA officer enroute} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{missed address} resident in Arrowbear needs assistance evacuating; also a 90-year old resident in Crestline |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{continued discussion regarding DC10 being sent to San Diego - "we have plenty here"; "yeah that's what I told them, but whatever they want to do"} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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structure group come into Running Springs to Nob Hill and use White 1 for tactics |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: {via email - thank you} |
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On one of the Rim of the World Website pages, there is a number listed for Animal Control (909) 356-3956.
Please change this. This does not lead to Animal Control.
Here is the correct number: 1-800-472-5609
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Per CHP - info only - most of Fredalba is up in flames |
| Tue 10/23 |
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North Lake Arrowhead, Cedar Glen, Twin Peaks; mandatory evacuations |
| Tue 10/23 |
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DC10 dropping on Running Springs |
| Tue 10/23 |
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businesses open in Lake Arrowhead village, mandatory for them to evacuate, but we cannot force them |
| Tue 10/23 |
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spot fires on Nob Hill Circle (Running Springs) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: NBC Channel 4 |
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DC 10 lining up over Running Springs area right now. Live on Ch. 4 news. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
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ROTW Google - Sonoma Drive - This is a relay from Scott on Sonoma Dr, who has remained and saved
many homes on Sonoma/Del Norte:
Sonoma Dr from Brentwood: All up to 875 Sonoma OK, except 710, which
is gone.
After 875 Sonoma all the way to first connection to Amador - all gone
except 975 Sonoma - OK..
All Amador between lower and upper connect to Sonoma - OK.
Windward- all gone.
Moving down to intersection of Amador and Del Norte and moving down
Del Norte:
Upper corner house (Amador/Del Norte) gone.
Lower corner house (Amador/Del Norte) OK.
Going down Del Norte from Amador - all gone to 837 Del Norte. 837
badly damaged.
835, 815 OK
Houses below 815 to and including 785 gone EXCEPT 775.
Sutter - OK
Looking at Placer from this area - 1 home on left gone.
No further info.
Will update when I hear back from Sonoma Scott
Our house at 935 Sonoma is a goner, as well as surrounding homes.
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Dispatch said that South Ops wants to steal the DC10 due to structure threat in San Diego. Reply was "I believe we have a structure or two ourselves." |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Ch. 4 |
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Fire heading down to Fredalba. Pretty soon mandatory evacuations in this area.
DC 10 tanker coming soon in about 5 minutes |
| Tue 10/23 |
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back up 330 and heading towards Live Oak?; my brother lives there and I haven't heard anything go up Live Oak; it's getting pretty ugly up here right; winds sustained 20; down here by Nob Hill it's just roaring and coming up fast |
| Tue 10/23 |
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We're going to need some protection up here on Nob Hill (off 18, Running Springs); "we've got a major wall of fire heading towards us" |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Commercial ringing alarm at 27984 Lakes Edge Road |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{family on Dart Canyon refusing to evacuate} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{residents refusing to leave residence Willow Dr in Running Springs; officer provided address, names and dates of birth} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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910 lifting off Victorville for first drop of the day heading for Slide Fire |
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STRONG & DAMAGING SANTA ANA WINDS TO CONTINUE.
STRONG.HOT.& DRY SANTA ANA WINDS WILL CONTINUE TODAY ACROSS
MUCH OF EXTREME SW CA. WIND GUSTS UP TO 65 CAN BE
EXPECTED BELOW & THROUGH FAVORED PASSES & CANYONS IN THE
MOUNTAINS & VALLEYS. THE OFFSHORE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO
DIMINISH GRADUALLY LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY. THE
SANTA ANA WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BRING HOT & DRY CONDITIONS TO
THE REGION THROUGH WEDNESDAY.WITH A RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT
FOR MUCH OF THE REGION.
HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST FOR HIGH PROFILE
VEHICLES DUE TO THE STRONG WINDS. IN ADDITION.AREAS OF SMOKE.AND
BLOWING DUST & SAND WILL REDUCE VISIBILITIES BELOW ONE QUARTER
MILE AT TIMES.
SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SANTA ANA MTNS & FOOTHILLS-
1009 AM PDT TUE OCT 23 2007
.HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS
AFTERNOON.
.WIND ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT FROM 3 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 11 AM
PDT WEDNESDAY.
THE WIND ADVISORY IS NOW IN EFFECT FROM 3 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO
11 AM PDT WEDNESDAY. A HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL
3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON.
AREAS OF NE TO EAST WINDS 25 TO 40 MPH WITH LOCAL DAMAGING
WIND GUSTS TO AROUND 65 MPH AT TIMES WILL PERSIST THROUGH EARLY
AFTERNOON.ESPECIALLY THROUGH & BELOW PASSES & CANYONS. THE
SANTA ANA WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN LATE THIS
AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY. AREAS OF SMOKE & BLOWING DUST COULD
ALSO LOCALLY RESTRICT VISIBILITIES TO LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AT
TIMES.
A HIGH WIND WARNING MEANS A HAZARDOUS HIGH WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED
OR OCCURRING. SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS OF AT LEAST 40 MPH OR GUSTS
OF 58 MPH OR MORE CAN LEAD TO PROPERTY DAMAGE.
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| Tue 10/23 |
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{via email from resident in CPP - Thank you} Just got back from Crestline shopping at Goodwins (9:30 AM). They are trying to stay open with only three people, but mandatory evacuation will probably shut them down. Police are now enforcing evacuation. Saw several police cars pulling walkers and bikers over and telling them to leave now. Fire hasn’t come down into Crestline yet. I drove around Edelweiss to view fire. Fire seems to be slowly coming down the slope below Grandview St. in Twin Peaks, maybe a Ľ of the way down. It does seem to have traveled further south from last night on Grandview. As of 9 PM it hadn’t reached the Twin Peaks Police Station when I drove up with my motorcycle to take a look, but it looks as if it may have jumped passed it this morning heading to Strawberry Peak. Still looks to be burning strong north/northwest of Grandview Elementary, hopefully the school is safe. But, it’s hard to tell because of the smoke… I’m hoping they can hold the line and prevent it from dropping into Crestline, but I didn’t see any firefighters in containment mode right now. Let’s all pray for some air support. Looks like the officials are triaging the fires and they are considering us a patient with a burst artery and moving on. Let’s hope that’s not the case. Lake arrowhead should all evac because it seems that 18 is the established route out right now due to the 330 being closed. They don’t want to be trapped in. VOE and Cedarpines Park still have the 18 and 138 so we should be okay unless it jumps down into Crestline or the wind shifts and starts blowing over us. I’ll keep you updated. My thoughts and prayers are with the entire mountain community. I love this community and hope we all stand together as one. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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folks in this area {possibly Willow in Running Springs} said they never got an evacuation notice; along with SAR units we're going to go through and make PA announcements to make sure they all get out |
| Tue 10/23 |
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The cell tower in Running Spriings burned over last night. Asking for cell resource for FFs |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{low volume} at Green Valley Lake Road, this is as far as anybody wants to go {broke} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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A little good news from ROTW Google Group: "Good News for Fairway and Grandview in Lake Arrowhead/Twin Peaks" - My son-in-law drove through up Hwy 189 through Grandview and then down
Fairway with a Fire Captain around 9AM and verified that although
there is very strong smell of smoke, there were no houses lost or of
immediate threat. Most of the trees in the hillside north of Fairway
are burned. There was no house burned on El Dorado as earlier
reported. A fire truck is stationed on El Dorado near Fairway, and
several fire trucks from other areas are at Grandview Elementary.
They are doing a great job putting out any spot fires. They tried to
reach Running Springs but were unable due to high winds blowing the
fire south/south west to hwy 18. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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{looting?} in progress 415 Clubhouse at or near the Alpine Center |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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Incident: 0643
Type: Report of Fire
Location: OLD CITY CREEK RD JNO SR330
Zoom Map: 548 2E
9:32AM 1039 SBCC
9:28AM ACTIVE FIRE, 1 STRUCTURE THREATENED
RESPONDING OFFICERS STATUS
9:32AM CHP Unit On Scene
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| Tue 10/23 |
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Security Check at 477 Pyramid in Crestline |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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both sides of the 330 are fully engulfed in flames |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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330 is not an evacuation route; must go down 18 towards San Bernardino |
| Tue 10/23 |
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31757 Hilltop - BDF Engine 39 has put it out |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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{discussion - freq 166.965} |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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Structure fire at 31757 Hilltop in Running Springs; fire has jumped the 330 and is heading towards Old City Creek
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
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{Down the hill info - there is little to no wind on the 10 near Hospitality; it's been that way a while} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{... missed beginning} "on Live Oak Canyon"; a water tender is doing what he can but no engines in the area. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: ABC Ch. 7 |
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Per ABC Ch 7 right now! Showing Secret and Encina Way burning in Running Springs. Homes have also burned on Wagon Wheel in RS. FFs are trying to control spot fires, can't save homes already on fire. RS Fire Dept working on their own neighborhood, per reporter.
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: {via email -Thank you} |
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The Chef's Inn and Tavern is also preparing/supplying food for fire fighter's |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Inciweb - Slide Fire 8:50 am upd |
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Size 4,000 acres
Fuels Involved Grass And Timber
Fire Behavior Extreme. fire making runs at Running Springs and Green Valley Lake.
Planned Actions Crews are working on stucture protection in Smiley Park and Fredalba.
Growth Potential Extreme
Current Wind Conditions 30 mph NE
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From ROTW Google Group: According to Channel 2 News 4 - 5 homes have burned on Easy Street, some homes are ok on Easy Street. They showed a video of a house going up on Easy Street. I live on that street but I could not tell exactly which home it was but it did appear to be a home on the uphill side. |
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ABC Ch 7 news - most of the community of Green Valley Lake is still standing, altho many homes have burned. Approx 4,000 acres total so far (Green Valley Lake/Running Springs) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Chief 3600 |
To: Comm Ctr |
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address on Pinehurst is still standing (notify auto?) |
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ABC Ch 7 - per USFS incident commander - will try to get aircraft up over Lk Arrowhead this morning. Too windy to use aircraft over RS/Green Valey Lake fire. Have 1,000 people on the two fires - not enough but will do their best. The IC said this fire is a lot tougher to fight than the old fire due to wind pushing up slope and poor road access. 4 helicopters , 4 air tankers & DC10 on standby for air (Lk Arrowhead). concentrating on west side of Lk Arrowhead/Crestline fire today also. |
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{Easy Street is the area where the fire jumped the 18. Earlier news media reports indicated structures burning on Easy Street.} |
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Per phone conversation with USFS PIO Jim Wilkins, the fire came up on to Wilderness and burned several homes in upper Rowco. It crossed 18 and ran down Old City Creek. It jumped 330 to the north and east of Live Oak not below Live Oak. Some homes have been lost in lower Rowco. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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hot spots unless they are imminent threats to structures we'll have to leave the hot spots alone; we just don't have the resources right now |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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Caltrans press release regarding road closures: http://sv08data.dot.ca.gov/memos/files/comalert/102307_1.pdf |
| Tue 10/23 |
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It's attacking Running Springs and it's really awesome right now. (news helicopters talking) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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freq 169.65 for air; cmd net for tac {broken and scratchy - unable to copy frequencies} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Palo Alto and Deep Creek - losing structures now |
| Tue 10/23 |
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gonna back down Deep Creek or is it going to hold here? {no reply} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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From: ABC news |
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Re: Interview with John Miller, USFS - Estimates the Slide incident to be approx. 4000 acres at this time. Priority at this time is structure protection in the Smiley Park and Running Springs area. Estimated containment is 5% at this time. Fire officials pulled resources from Green Valley Lake at 10 p.m. last night, and have been unable to access area since, due to road being blocked by fire. Miller added that a strike team from Malibu has just arrived and will be deployed to the Smiley Park area. The other area on which they are concentrating efforts is the area west of Lake Arrowhead, and the Twin Peaks area. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: ABC Channel 7 |
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Per John Miller with USForest Service. Said structure protection is priority right now in Smiley Park & R.S. Plan for today is R.S. and west side of Lake Arrowhead/Twin Peaks. Lost at least 100 homes last night in Running Springs area.
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| Tue 10/23 |
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from SCM: John Miller is PIO with USForest Service. Said structure protection is priority right now in Smiley Park & R.S. Plan for today is R.S. and west side of Lake Arrowhead/Twin Peaks |
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from SCM: On Channel 7, USFS from briefing said they lost 100 homes in RS last night and cannot now get acccess to GVL bc road is blocked by fire. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we've got 4 different spots we got to put out |
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From SCM: ABC7 interview with John Miller (USFS PIO) right now. He says at least 100 homes were lost last night in Running Springs area. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we have another fire off of spyglass on an access road -- its restarted |
| Tue 10/23 |
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From: CHP CAD |
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7:02AM 101-S1 ** 30747 KNOLL VIEW, IS WHERE 101-B31 PUT OUT FIRE, PER 101B FIRE IS IN THE AREA TRYING TO GET TO IT
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6:51AM FIRE KNOLL VIEW OFF LIVE OAK STARTING IN SOME BRUSH WILL TAKE OUT CPLE CARS AND CLOSE TO 1 RESIDENCE IN DANGER ** 1039 COM CTR FIRE IC |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Sandalwood flare up is a jackpot of fuel, we have a line around it. we're going to get someone on that so we don't get any more calls about it. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Flare up at 1014 Sandalwood Drive |
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{news reporter standing in front of the Bus Stop on SR18 in Running Springs; red/orange glow in distance behind him} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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From: ME281 |
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Fire's out. Returning. {this was in the Arctic Circle} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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5:36AM 5-I111 ** 330 2 BLOCKS
JWO LIVE OAK IS WHERE FIRE JUMPED THE
330, ALL IS BLOCKED BY FIRE
5:36AM 5-I111 AT LIVE OAK AT 330, VEHS
THERE WILL BE TURNING THEM AROUND
5:23AM PER 5-IS10 DO NOT USE 330, FIRE
CROSSING LIVE OAK, USE 18 AT WATERMAN |
| Tue 10/23 |
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one north of 28733 Winnipeg, open door. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Be advised we have advised animal control about the horse behind calvary chapel -- unable to get ETA; be advised address is 101 Grandview. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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clear south to 173 on manatoba... so far UTL on the white pickup |
| Tue 10/23 |
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north part of east flank down to crab flat... west part is 3/4 mile east of deep creek... unable to get a look at GVL |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Stopped with suspicious vehicle at Leprechaun Drive and (?). |
| Tue 10/23 |
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open door 27563 Matterhorn Drive |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Manitoba checked negative from golden rule to the dead end. So far UTL. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Hospital has 26 patients. If we decide to evacuate the hospital completely they'll need 13 ambulances. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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trying to find out if the hospital needs to be evacuated completely |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Fullsized pickup truck to 10 to 15 hispanic males in the bed of the truck; 173 was clear from the dam to manatoba |
| Tue 10/23 |
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15 hispanic males in the back of a truck getting ready to loot at golden rule and manatoba |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Helitanker 722 will be ready to try to make water drops after sunrise |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Suspicious persons reported at Brentwood and Grass Valley; Units are en route. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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From: CHP |
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Out with vehicle at Chipmunk and Blue Jay |
| Tue 10/23 |
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| Tue 10/23 |
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exact 1020 for horse? we're parked right at augusta by the school. we're walking the horse up to the road. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we're coming around the corner to get the horses |
| Tue 10/23 |
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any chance to get animal control out here? we got a horse out here and the homes are ready to go up. At Augusta Drive and Cypress Drive. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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out with suspicious black dodge on clubhouse. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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| Tue 10/23 |
Source: other |
From: {email -- thanks} |
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We are still hanging out in Crestline. We are at Lake Greg Dr and Nestal. There seem to be quite a few of us here according to your "standby" ROTW (thank you for that btw...). We have a view of the entire east side of the Lake Gregory Valley looking down on the baseball end of the lake. I don't see any movement on the part of the fire. In fact, it seems to have lessened and I don't think it's wishful thinking. Winds are actually a bit quieter than they were earlier, but still not near being calm. We are watching closely and will leave if we are in the way of firefighting efforts or if fire does come close. Until then, we are digging in. Luck and blessings to everyone both up and down. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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fire has jumped Hwy 18 (to South) near/at Wilderness |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Fire reported along SR 18 at mile marker 40.38 in the arctic circle about a 100 feet up hill from the highway. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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fire has jumped grandview and is going toward augusta |
| Tue 10/23 |
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SO reports spot fire at 26096 Walnut Hills cross of Fairway |
| Tue 10/23 |
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report of several homes on fire Hwy 18 & Wilderness. {don't know which side of hwy 18} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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medic engine 94 was able to repair the window, they do have a flat tire on a dualy, but they're still operational -- they're staying in the fight. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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fire is starting to spot across fairway near el dorado across from 275 fairway |
| Tue 10/23 |
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so far it doesn't appear that the fire has gotten into the deep creek drainage |
| Tue 10/23 |
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ive got a decent side spot fire at the corner of walnut hills and fairway |
| Tue 10/23 |
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got a line around the 1/2 acre spot at annadale and brentwood. but need another unit to help hold it. if it gets out, it will run right into houses. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{scanner has been very quiet for mtn} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{will try to transcribe best i can...} |
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{RS Transcriber off line for a few hours of "sleep".} |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Marta will be back at 7-11 in Crestline to pick up. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Lost all water pressure in the area of Sonoma and Black Oak. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Dispatch |
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911 calls indicate fire is at 2 residences at Cypress Drive and Augusta Drive and at 461 Violet Drive in Twin Peaks. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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request Sheriff Deputy to station 51 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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{discussion regarding dozers} "No problem, plenty of fire for everybody"; {reply} "Sounds like more than enough." |
| Tue 10/23 |
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31430 Valley Ridge Dr {Running Springs} house on fire; I copy, we've got lots of them burning right now |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we've gone down as far as the middle passing lane on 330; there's no traffic and the smoke it getting very thick |
| Tue 10/23 |
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everybody's on the clock, get some rest where you can |
| Tue 10/23 |
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for the remainder of the evening nobody goes into the GVL area until day break; we'll re-evaluate in the morning and probably go in there with SO and SAR; North side of SR18 all the way east where it goes; all the resources assigned will be on full day shift tomorrow; 0700 briefing on the west end; we'll do another briefing on this side afterwards; we need to keep our eyes to the east of us where the fire is North of Snow Valley - keep that fire North of 18 |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
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215 N Fairway - I'm checking there's nobody here (a medical alarm was going off) |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via email - Thank you!} |
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on the hill staying safely at North Shore. Went back to my house in the Dart Canyon Area and despite some expansion of the flames on the ridge, the flames as of the time of this e-mail (12:57 am) had not made any significant downward (into Dart Canyon) movement. |
| Tue 10/23 |
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208 Dart Canyon Rd for a Marta Pick Up; affirm he's en route; he's at Goodwin's now |
| Tue 10/23 |
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make sure CHP has the 330 closed; we're getting a lot of upbound traffic on the 330; we also have a large number of looky loos in the large turnout at the Upper Passing Lanes |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Inciweb updated 12:30 |
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Mandatory Evacuation for Green Valley Lake, Arrowbear, and Running Springs. Fire has crossed Hwy 18 in Running Springs. Fire Behavior Extreme. fire making runs at Running Springs and Green Valley Lake.
Current Wind Conditions 30 mph NE |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: scanner |
From: Inciweb at 12:30 am |
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Grass Fire - Mandatory areas: North Lake Arrowhead and Grass Valley are under mandatory evacuation (North of the Lake Arrowhead Dam on SR 173 and areas north of Hwy 189), All of Twin Peaks
Also Rim Forest, Crestline and Lake Gregory
Voluntary Evacuations include--Remainder of Lake Arrowhead, Cedar Glen, Cedar Pines Park and Valley of Enchantment
Size 300 acres
Fuels Involved Grass and Timber
Fire Behavior Severe
Current Wind Conditions 20-30 mph NE |
| Tue 10/23 |
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31250 Hilltop (SO enroute to Fire Station) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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31315 Onacrest, welfare check; lot of heavy embers and smoke at station 51; we're not able to cross that; do you have units on the other side of that? |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Crestline residents needing ride down hill on Marta, is there a special place to meet it? He says he'll wait at 7-11. {response} ok, I'll advise |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Rim of the World Church, just west of Running Springs Station 51 (? missed beginning traffic) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Have a sheriff rep tie in with division chief at station 51 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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Just came across the rim and it's down below behind Pali Mtn in the drainage ditch there. Not an immediate threat. Will come up eventually, and will need resources. |
| Tue 10/23 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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11:49PM PER 101-10 FIRE HAS JUMPED SR18
AT RIM WORLD TO CITY CREEK^
10:15PM S2 ADV ED THEY ONLY HAVE A FEW
MORE VEHS TO MOVE OUT OF THE LOT
10:03PM FIRE IS ALL ALONG THE NORTH
SIDE OF THE ARROWHEAD CHP OFFICE AND
FIRE STN 51 - THEY ARE HOLDING IT FOR NOW
{thank you for the email}
10:02PM THE FLAMES ARE NDSOW VISIBLE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL |
| Tue 10/23 |
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came back towards Running Springs; it's down that drainage down Sidewinder and we are lacking resources; it's going to come up but for right this moment you're all right - it hasn't gotten to Pali |
| Tue 10/23 |
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getting the strike team assembled and meet at Station 51 |
| Tue 10/23 |
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all of Smiley Park North side and south side have been notified |
| Tue 10/23 |
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fire down in San Diego is taking priority right now (regarding resources for the morning - planning on double shifts) |
| Tue 10/23 |
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we're going to need some more here on Allview, it's pretty intense; for your information Chief it looks like it reached Pali Camp on the East side |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Streets in Smiley Park are very narrow; don't get caught in there with no way out. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Evacuation of Smiley Park and Fredalba. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Onacrest Drive (house on fire) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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make a run through Smiley Park and Fredalba area reinforcing the evacuations
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| Mon 10/22 |
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structure fires refer to Chief 3600; the fire has moved into Running Springs and they're working it as we speak |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
From: Chief 3600 |
To: Comm Center |
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You will start getting numerous structure fires in Running Springs; let me know and we'll move the resources up here; MA50 and Bat145 are enroute; and we have a strike team of engines on it too |
| Mon 10/22 |
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BB City Personnel cover your equipment |
| Mon 10/22 |
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31478 Circle View Drive, Running Springs; Structure Fire |
| Mon 10/22 |
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take the squad on Knollview and take a look at Old City Creek and give me a view of the fire |
| Mon 10/22 |
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structure group moving over to Running Springs; hopefully we have 30 minutes to get them there |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Wilderness and 18 - structures on fire |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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{missed address} we're on scene with confirmed looters {NOTE: per email, thank you!: 302## elfin ct, running springs} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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reports of a stranded motorist with animals in the car on SR18 at the 4000' level |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: other |
From: Inciweb |
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Slide Fire updated 1-1/2 hours ago: Size 1,500 acres Fire Behavior Extreme. fire making runs at Running Springs and Green Valley Lake. 25 homes have been confirmed burned. 400 homes threatened.
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| Mon 10/22 |
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checking availability of Marta to pick up a mother and three children who have no way to evacuate from Cresta in Crestline |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via email - thank you!} |
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Power and phones are still up in some areas of Cedar Glen (the incident page reported outages), we're at Western and Hook Creek and there have been no outages. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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15 females and 2 males requesting assistance with evacuation on Burnt Mill |
| Mon 10/22 |
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We have a need for a fuel tender. We ordered one earlier, but it never showed up. |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: other |
From: Inciweb |
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Mandatory Evacuations are in effect for al areas north of Hwy 189 including North Bay Dr and Grass Valley Road, and north of Lake Arrowhead Dam on Hwy 173, incuding Twin Peaks.
Voluntary Evacuations include--
remiander of Lake Arrowhead, Cedar Glen, Lake Gregory, Cedar Pines Park and Valley of Enchantment
North Lake Arrowhead is under mandatory evacuation, all areas listed below
North of the Lake Arrowhead Dam on SR 173
North of of North Bay and State Highway 189
Grass Valley Road north of Club House Drive
Also Rim Forest and Crestline
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| Mon 10/22 |
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189 at the Calvary Chapel (calling in a license plate) |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via emai - thank you!} |
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Cedar Glen update Per resident: Electricty has been out since early this morning due to a downed tree near Bridge and Hook Creek Rd. However, phones lines still working. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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made announcements all the way down North Road to Arosa |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via email - Thank you} |
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Crestline Mandatory Evacs - They just drove down Dart Canyon
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| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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lots of embers falling but so far we've held our own (Wildnerness area, Running Springs) |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via email - thank you} |
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Just want to give you an update from our fire fighter friend who's been in the Deer Lodge Park area all day and has a home there.
No homes have burned in the Deer Lodge Park area. They are watching some hot spots behind the area, but it's blowing out west away from Deer Lodge. Power is on and some people were still staying in the area.
The fire started by power line fire on Edgecliff (according to eyewitness accounts) and homes were in danger through out the day along Edgecliff. The fire has burned homes on Brentwood Dr. which connects with Edgecliff at the Deer Lodge Park sign.
Also there was an incorrect report of two structures burned down on Klondike. As of 5 pm tonight, after the report was posted through the scanner, an eyewitness confirmed that no homes on Klondike, or Aleutian had been burned. The fire had stayed on the West side of the Golf Course and not crossed Grass Valley. The areas of Sandlewood looked gloomy with lots of fire hoses out on those streets.
Also, fire crews held off the fire at Cypress protecting several homes. Another fire fighter who lives on Squirrel reported this and also reported the fire alarmingly close to his house.
The Lake Arrowhead Resort is hosting the firefighters with Papaya Bay serving them food. The resort is closed to the public.
Power is still on in Lake Arrowhead. TV stations are not working here, but the internet is still working. Winds have calmed down a bit since about 4 pm today. Several helicopters were making runs over the Lake filled with water heading towards Grass Valley.
Lake Arrowhead Village is closed.
this update is from an eyewitness & local pastor (staying on to assist as a pastor) who lives next to the Lake Arrowhead Resort. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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We're pulled back here to Arrowbear for the time being (fire equipment & personnel). All pulled out of Green Valley Lake area |
| Mon 10/22 |
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firefighters have pulled out of GVL and back into Arrowbear |
| Mon 10/22 |
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VOE and CPP are still voluntary |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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Mandatory evac for Crestline |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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Animal Control is establishing an emergency evacuation center for animals at the orange show fair grounds. NOT Wildwood Park at 40th Street and Waterman in San Bernardino.
The phone number is correct (909) 356-3998 and they are answering the phone. It is not a message machine.
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| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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Report of Fire taking off at 1028 Sandalwood Drive across from Sandalwood Court in Lake Arrowhead |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via email - thank you} |
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I called the grass valley info line and they said the fire is northeast of Crestline and its close but they are still in voluntary evacs. still but may change that within the hour.
This is the web site
http://www.fire.ca.gov/
Grass Valley Fire
Northwest of Lake Arrowhead
San Bernardino County
This fire has burned 300 acres northwest of Lake Arrowhead in San Bernardino County. The town of Lake Arrowhead and several adjacent towns are threatened. More than 100 homes have burned north of Lake Arrowhead and 1,500 homes are threatened. Mandatory evacuations are ongoing for all areas north of highway 189 including North Bay Drive, Grass Valley Road, north of Lake Arrowhead Dam on Highway 173, Twin Peaks, Blue Jay and North Shore areas. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Rim Forest, Lake Arrowhead, Dart Canyon, and north of Lake Gregory, Lake Gregory and Crestline. 60 engines, four water tenders and 7 crews are currently assigned to this incident. Grass Valley Fire Information line (909) 383-5688.
Slide Fire
Green Valley Lake, near Running Springs
San Bernardino County
This fire has burned 1,500 acres at Green Valley Lake near Running Springs in San Bernardino County. 20 homes have burned and 400 continue to be threatened. Mandatory evacuations are in place for the Green Valley Lake, Arrow Bear and Running Springs areas. 17 engines and five water tenders are currently assigned to this fire. Slide Fire Information Line (909) 383-5688.
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| Mon 10/22 |
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Rotating out crews right now. Re: media request, ask again around 11:00 p.m. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Request from media to come out and see what you guys are doing. You don't have to, it's up to you. |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
From: Phone Call with USFS PIO |
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****** USFS is asking that anyone remaining in GVL to leave now all fire crews of pulled out of GVL and they will not respond to any calls for help ***** |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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Get down to Calvary Chapel now! |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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26302 Walnut Hills Drive - spot fire |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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Running Springs area no cell service and no text messaging available. |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: scanner |
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Suspicious vehicle - Oregon plates CWW340 White Chevy pickup with two young adult males. Possible looters. They should be headed down Grass Valley now. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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suspicious vehicle we just witnessed drive off - Oregon plates white Chevy pickup truck with 2 adult males heading down Grass Valley now; possible looters |
| Mon 10/22 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: {via email - thank you!} |
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I have a good view of the fire from my home in Cedar Glen. The fire is currently coming from the East and up the back side of the ridge above the care takers home at the Boy Scout Camp. It is possible that the upper part of the camp has sustained damage. The wind is blowing in such a way that it is moving West between Hwy 18 and the care takers home. Flames are now visible just behind the ridge. If the fire keeps moving like it has been, it will burn between Hwy 18 and Hook Creek. It is hard to tell at this point how far down the hill the fire will burn toward Hook Creek. It appears to be moving more West South West than North so I would expect the fire to burn well above any homes in Cedar Glen. Considering the fire's current direction of movement, the next areas of concern would appear to be be Heaps Peak and then Santa's Village as it moves toward Sky Forest and Cedar Ridge. I should be able to give a better idea tomorrow. So far, the fire is still a good distance from the homes and no homes have been damage in Cedar Glen.
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Fire is active into the community now. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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large flare up Violet cross of Club House |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Keep your road speeds down. Pull down and regroup south of town |
| Mon 10/22 |
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secure that you're keeping your road speeds down |
| Mon 10/22 |
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We're on Wilderness right now and there is already fire that has crossed on both sides of the road |
| Mon 10/22 |
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if it gets down there into Wilderness get everybody turned around and headed out of there |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Making a good run down through the camp towards Wilderness. Don't know if I would send anyone up to Wilderness |
| Mon 10/22 |
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it's going to hook around us and cut us off |
| Mon 10/22 |
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all we've got left here are civilians that refused to evacuate; not willing to leave; fire is burning east and south of town north of Green Valley Chapel there |
| Mon 10/22 |
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heavy fire conditions on the south side of town, it's trying to work around us to the south; evacuating the whole northern end of town |
| Mon 10/22 |
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{transcriber: vicki are you on now? Craig on SoCalMtns looking for you} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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units to Green Valley for additional structures; need SO to assist with additional evacuations in GVL |
| Mon 10/22 |
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We're going to evacuate the whole north end of Green Valley Lake now. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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squad 51 is roaming around out there looking for spots |
| Mon 10/22 |
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running south now more towards the Arrowbear side; any mores spots across? Where the camp is it ditched; we've got one out building going back in there and that's it for now. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Attempt to contact Batallion Chief to inform him that all homes at some unidentified location are burned to the ground. Unfortunately they did not identify the location |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Running Springs is going to get hit hard here real quick. There aren't any resources available. Making a significant run right into the back of running springs. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Chief 100 assembling 4 Task Forces to report to Running Springs. Trying to figure out how to get them up the mountain |
| Mon 10/22 |
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fire taking off, we're going to have to pull back (missed area - Angeles? GVL?); visibility - it's going to be difficult; right now that Angeles Lane is one lane and real steep; it's going to be a major problem; it's starting to crown in the trees and at the edge of town here and starting to make a run |
| Mon 10/22 |
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fire at the end of Angeles; could you and 271 go take a look at it? |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Request to shut off power grid in Running Springs from Palo Alto to the West in advance of the fire heading into Running Springs |
| Mon 10/22 |
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1 house taking off down here on Wilderness |
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don't want to lose that North end we've worked on all day (Calvary Chapel? area) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Sheriff officer out at 2001 Wilderness Road reporting Spot Fire taking off |
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SO Deputy at 2001 Wilderness near Camp Helendade -and there's a spot fire taking off there |
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fire half mile from Wilderness in Running Springs |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Wilderness road (Running Springs) is getting an ember shower; fire is not too far away |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Camp Helendade
2001 Wilderness Road
Running Springs, CA 92382
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| Mon 10/22 |
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make another run through Wilderness {in Running Springs} to make sure everyone has evacuated |
| Mon 10/22 |
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staging incoming units in downtown Running Springs for assignment |
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| Mon 10/22 |
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{area map - "Helendade"} http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forestvisitormaps/sanbernardino/north/11.php |
| Mon 10/22 |
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there's an address on Nob Hill that will give you a good view; we also have a unit up there staged already taking a look at it, but we appreciate it |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Chief no good view from Wilderness; suggest you go up to Nob Hill |
| Mon 10/22 |
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from Running Springs - Fire In Canyon below Nob Hill, time to go |
| Mon 10/22 |
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best vantage point is on Nob Hill; looks like it was moving down into Camp Helendade; we're going to go take a look off Wilderness then up to Nob Hill (this was the Running Springs FD Chief) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Can see the flames from Crest Forest Dr in CPP. Appears to be a bit beyond Crestline, E/NE from CPP. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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139 Cypress - active fire flaring up |
| Mon 10/22 |
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| Mon 10/22 |
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We can see the glow of the fire and flames from Lakeview Dr. in Crestline
above Lake Gregory on the North East side of Crestline. Fire appears to be
above Dart Canyon on the ridge? |
| Mon 10/22 |
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from west side of Running Springs - So far, all we see is a red glow (reflecting off of the smoke) off in the GVL direction. No flames visible, no smoke from the RS direction. Seems like the fire is at least 3-4 miles from my location. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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the Deep Creek Canyon is going up now; that stuff at holding at Crab Flats is not doing us any good |
| Mon 10/22 |
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re: CPP power outage - FYI: Power came back on between 6:30-7:00 PM.(we're on the Hayloft side of CPP) Still clear here. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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{scanner discussion regarding meals and meetings} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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I'm on Grass Valley East Tunnel |
| Mon 10/22 |
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AA15 - "that fire isn't looking fierce in all places"; "it may not be as bad as it once looked" |
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25215 Spyglass on the access road; spot fire under a boat |
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6241 - my task force minus one engine and another limping in behind us is down for the evening and will be on in the morning |
| Mon 10/22 |
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get the helitankers up first thing to pick up that right flank all the way up; the Slide is pretty smokey and a mess, we'll take one more lap around and then we're heading for Fox; we'll try to be up by 7am, but that may be optomistic |
| Mon 10/22 |
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"fire is coming to the backside of the campground" (no details as to where, but reference earlier post possibly in Deep Creek area) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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AA15 to ground (Grass incident I believe) - "... midslope there at the road; if it slops over I think you're going to have something there"; is there a road parallel to that ridge the fire is paralleling that, if it holds there, you've got a good chance; if it slops over that ridge you've got a whole bowl there that goes for miles; if we can get some helitankers up here tomorrow... either way we'll be back up tomorrow; {missed - talked about Tunnel 2 I believe} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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South Ops wants to know what time for relief tomorrow for AA15? 10:30 if we get going at 7am. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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AA15 wondering if the fire names will be combined or kept separate; Dispatch replied unsure at this time. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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AA15 over the fire at first light tomorrow. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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AA15 states all aircraft including news media are off the incident; AA15 will go to Fox since all the hotels are filled with evacuees |
| Mon 10/22 |
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fire is 1/2 mile from the camp and now they're leaving; we have bodies staged in that general vicinity; last I heard about 30 minutes ago was it was approx 400 yards from the bottom of Deep Creek; then it will have to come up Deep Creek; we're not thinking immediate threat yet |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Investigator 164 - released from the Lake Arrowhead fire |
| Mon 10/22 |
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They're going to be over in the area of Spyglass and Augusta; "over there where the fire is spotting and all that" |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Contacts in Cedar Glen say that things are going OK over in that area (5:45 pm) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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set up fueling at 5 Points |
| Mon 10/22 |
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31725 Hwy 18; RP hears electrical buzzing from middle of house and would like it checked |
| Mon 10/22 |
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a fire on Spyglass off an access road; it's restarted or something |
| Mon 10/22 |
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ME291 (? or ME91?} - move to cover Running Springs |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Tanker 910 just completed third drop for the Grass Valley incident. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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{Out of area - but may effect evacuees} Caltrans and CHP on Scanner report 15 freeway will remain closed until tomorrow.
Will make next decision no earlier than 1400 hours Tuesday
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| Mon 10/22 |
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need hand crews in the Trinity area; a lot of work to be done; hand crews we have are keeping it out of {Miller?} Canyon right now |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Red Cross set up an evac center at the San Bernardino Fairgrounds (Building # 3) On 7th Street in Victorville.
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| Mon 10/22 |
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From: From Transcriber |
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{Scott Straley did a phone interview with NBC4 moments ago.} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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From: (Via email - Thank you!) |
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5:15pm - Just spoke with my mother in Skyforest and she said they had just been “asked to leave.” |
| Mon 10/22 |
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affirm 18, 330, and 138 is closed to residents; residents down the hill are not allowed to their homes; they're keeping everybody off the hill due to fire activity, no ETA for reopening |
| Mon 10/22 |
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no changes other than air attack now on the fire two choppers working and the DC 10 is making test drops
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from SCM - "Power lines down on Golf Course at Oakmont" |
| Mon 10/22 |
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"Seeing a lot of activity in air. Have seen the copter go in several times and at least 2 planes. Hard to tell how many because some could be repeats. Looking for that DC10! Woohoo!!!!!!!
We've been given voluntary evac orders. " |
| Mon 10/22 |
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1 deputy on scene at the evac center with about 400 people; is there going to be any others sent to help him? Affirm - we'll get someone there |
| Mon 10/22 |
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5:07PM DEER LODGE PARK, BLUE JAY, CEDAR
GLEN, AEROBEAR, GREEN VALLEY LAKE,
RUNING SPRINGS, NORTH SHORE OF LAKE
ARROWHEAD, TWIN PEAKS - MANDO EVAC
5:06PM SBSO CALLD AL WILSON TOW FOR ONE
OF THEIR UNITS THAT HI8T A BOULDER
PLEASE LET THRU FOR THE SBSO VEH
5:00PM RIM FOREST,S AND W SIDE OF LAKE
ARROWHEAD,CRESTLINE AND LAKE GREGORY -
VOLUNTARY EVAC^
4:56PM FIRE STATUS AS OF 1630 HOURS - 2
FIRES USFS 1500 ACRES 15 STRUCTURES
LOST, GRASS VALLEY FIRE 300-400 ACRES -
115 STRUCTURES LOST
4:52PM A50 97 ARROWHEAK LAKE AT 173 -
SHUT DOWN 173 FOR HARD CLOSURE^
3:57PM SBSO NEEDS TO CLEAR AT 1600, ADV
NG CHP NEEDS TO BE 97 TO MAN CLOSURE
3:52PM SBSO REQ ETA FOR CHP TO RELIEVE
THEIR UNITS AT 330/HIGHLAND
3:01PM HIM REF THIS AS HE IS NOT AWARE
OF ANY PLACARDS AND WANTS HIS REPORTER
TO BE ALLOWED THRU THE CLOSURE
3:00PM SBSUN REPORTER IS AT 18/WATERMAN
THE OFCR WILL NOT LET THE REPORTER THUR
THE CLOSURE DUE TO NO PLACARD - WES
HUGES 909-386-3876 WANTS SOMEONE TO CALL
2:59PM PER CP8, RPTS OF NEWS PEOPLE
W/CREDENTIALS NOT BEING ALLOWED TO PASS
THROUGH CLOSURE 40TH AT WATERMAN // PER
UNITS MANNING NEG ALL NEWS PEOPLE GOING
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Objective of Tanker 910 is to lay in retardant line between active fire and Rimforest/Crestline area. Anticipates being able to make 2-3 more drops before cut-off time. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Taker 910 just completed first drop for Grass Valley fire, returning to base to refill retardant. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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hard cut off 18:37 (sunset - air discussion) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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(lunches dropped off at Grandview Middle School) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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"Do we have any fuel? The engines are getting thirsty." |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Drop point 1 - Grass Valley and Brentwood; 2 Brentwood and Trinity; 3 Brentwood and Pinehurst or Brentwood and Sonoma (food) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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work from the heel of the fire all the way to Brentwood |
| Mon 10/22 |
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fixed wing and the DC10 are enroute for drops on the fire (transcriber personal note: WOOHOO!) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Crestline area - We just had a helicopter circle above asking everyone to leave on a voluntary basis right now!!!! |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Grass Valley Structure group en route to the address on Sandalwood |
| Mon 10/22 |
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1014 Sandalwood Drive -a flare up map page 4737G6 - |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Those copying posts should give credit to ROTW.net. Thank you. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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{another transcriber heard them confirm with 40K evacs for Crestline and Rimforest. 40K possibly will fly over to help with notifications.} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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East side of Lake Gregory Drive at Edelweiss to Arosa and North Road {broke} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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The pizza place in Lake Arrowhead Village has open doors for emergency personnel; also the resort has rooms |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Slide Fire Summary - updated at 4:20pm -
Mandatory Evacuation for Green Valley Lake, Arrowbear, and Running Springs. Evauaction Center at Jerry Lewis Community Center, 7793 Central Ave Highland, CA
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin Not available
Location Green Valley Lake, Near Runnin Springs
Incident Commander Betty Ashe
Current Situation
Total Personnel Not available
Size 150 acres
Fuels Involved Grass And Timber
Fire Behavior Extreme
Significant Events Not available
Outlook
Planned Actions Not available
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for Green
Valley Lake, Arrowbear, Running Springs.
20 homes have been confirmed burned.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big
Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330.
Hwy 18 to 40th St., 330 bottom
(Highland) to top.
Resources on Scene-- 17 engines, 5 Water Tenders.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions 30 mph NE
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| Mon 10/22 |
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my structure group is holding the line right now (unknown which area) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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have a few units head towards Crestline and Rimforest to start making notifications {I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS SAID} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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40K working way over to help out on those (suspicious vehicle calls?) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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tankers ordered and another order for the DC10 |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Animal Control has been contacted about the horse at 101 Grandview; no ETA from AC |
| Mon 10/22 |
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40K is going to check for the suspicious White Pickup |
| Mon 10/22 |
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437 Rim of the World Drive - (area check - SO or CHP) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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40K helicopter: north part of the east flank is all the way to Crab Flats and the west part is 3/4 of a mile east of Deep Creek; we're unable to take a look at Green Valley Lake |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Leprechaun Drive and ? - suspicious vehicle - running plates |
| Mon 10/22 |
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27563 Matterhorn - checking on an open door |
| Mon 10/22 |
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we contacted the hospital about 30 minutes ago - they have 26 patients; if they need to evacuate there will be a need for 13 ambulances |
| Mon 10/22 |
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40K is on the east flank taking a look |
| Mon 10/22 |
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hospital? Standby for a moment and we'll let you know. |
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we're trying to find out if hospital needs to be evacuated |
| Mon 10/22 |
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173 to Golden Rule clear; we're checking Manitoba from Golden Rule |
| Mon 10/22 |
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entire area of Lake Arrowhead is under mandatory evacuation - confirmed |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Golden Rule and Manitoba; 15 to 20 hispanic males in the back of a truck appears to be getting ready to loot; SO en route |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Leprechaun in Enchanted Forest area of Running Springs (CHP? unit heading that way - not fire!) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Structure Groups: Trinity and Fairway and Crest Park |
| Mon 10/22 |
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take Grass Valley all the way; not accessible on Brentwood due to power lines down |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Grass Valley Structure group - need deputies in the Brentwood Grass Valley Road area, some suspicious characters in here |
| Mon 10/22 |
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From: US Forest Service Information Of |
To: To ROTW |
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NO Evac for Crestline
Dart Canyon Vol Evac
Slide fire estimate 1500 acres
estimated 15 homes lost
no roads avail
Grass fire
300-400 acres
they are guessing 100 homes distroyed note to residents
if you choose to remain in your home you are assuming all risk and 911 will not be able to help you. If you are under man evac do so as you will only interfear with firefighters ability to do there job
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| Mon 10/22 |
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crew work on at Brentwood for structure protection - to keep it out of Brentwood; trying to keep this west of Brentwood; direct hand line from Black Oaks all the way to Fairway; I'm afraid we won't have any crews for a while; if there's an opportunity to use some of our local folks, that's the best we can do now |
| Mon 10/22 |
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{Originally they said nearly 125 homes have burned. Someone must have caught on that 113 + 13 = 128 and corrected the blog entry.}
More than 125 Homes Have Burned
Fire officials estimate that as of 3 p.m., a total of 113 homes have burned in the Grass Valley Fire and 15 in the Slide Fire, said U.S. Forest Service spokesman John Miller.
He emphasized that the numbers are rough estimates.
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| Mon 10/22 |
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From: Website (via email - thank you) |
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National Guard to Fight Fires
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger today directed the California National Guard to make 1500 guardsmen available to support the firefighting efforts in Southern California. The 1500 guardsmen, including 200 troops currently patrolling the California/Mexico border, will be deployed at the direction of the Governor's Office of Emergency Services to areas where they can have the greatest impact...
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| Mon 10/22 |
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26061 Augusta Drive - the address for the horse |
| Mon 10/22 |
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the whole area is getting hit realy hard here at Walnut Hills; we're getting firefighters out for safety and moving one street up |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Chipmunk Drive (unknown what was hapening here) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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hot spot at 332 Cedarbrook |
| Mon 10/22 |
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open door at 27415 Cottonwood (SO or CHP on scene, checking) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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better location on the home that has horse that needs to get out on Augusta and Cypress - right across from teh School you'll see our unit; we're going to walk the horse up the roadway to Augusta |
| Mon 10/22 |
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OFF TOPIC (unless you're evacuating that way) NB15 north from Sierra Closed; 215 to Sierra is closed due to fire |
| Mon 10/22 |
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attempting to help with a horse on Augusta and Cypress drive |
| Mon 10/22 |
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resident wants to stay (101-21 - Running Springs area) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Kuffel Canyon at 18; is that shut down? all downbound open; all upbound are shut down/locked down |
| Mon 10/22 |
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?(medical aid?) call at Jensen's in Running Springs |
| Mon 10/22 |
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2485 ? Lane in Running Springs (? welfare check?) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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residence in Running Springs - welfare check - resident afraid to leave - on Poplar |
| Mon 10/22 |
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let them know I have the updated mandatories |
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any available Bear Lake Personnel respond to station 281 |
| Mon 10/22 |
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I'll get back to you on who your relief air attack is going to be (air resources are up?) |
| Mon 10/22 |
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send 291 back to Running Springs and leave our engine at 91 |
| Mon 10/22 |
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copters will have to slack off quite a bit (news?) |
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Arrowhead Resort- all rooms are for emergency personnel as well as food |
| Mon 10/22 |
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18 - 40.38 on the Arctic Circle, upslope of SR18; up about 100 or so feet from the road, smoker and a little bit of flames; not going anywhere yet; respond our engine 281 from the station |
| Mon 10/22 |
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engulfed and spot fires and jumped the road southbound towards Twin Peaks crossing Mormon?(Walnut?) Hill structures involved on Walnut Hill |
| Mon 10/22 |
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fire jumped Grandview and is going towards Augusta |
| Mon 10/22 |
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stage at the Elementary School on Rhine {note this is MPH Intermediate}; |
| Mon 10/22 |
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just went up to check on Pastor Rod's home on matterhorn, all is quiet there. The fire appears to be heading away from the Lake. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Grass Valley Structure - the adjacent streets it's going to be a real hazard; Brentwood to Oakmont? Valley is ok; but {missed} |
| Mon 10/22 |
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6250 go to White 2 and work for Arrowhead Task Force |
| Mon 10/22 |
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spot fire Walnut Hill in the area of Fairway; that's the area we're working, probably will have a lot of spot fires there |
| Mon 10/22 |
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task force 6250; brush engine 36 brush patrol 421 ME121; we're located at the ICP at the school; have them report to Brentwood and Annandale(?). |
| Mon 10/22 |
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2 homes fully engulfed on Klondike |
| Mon 10/22 |
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ME94 is still in the fight (mechanical issues; tires, windows). Let chief know. |
| Mon 10/22 |
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| Mon 10/22 |
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SLIDE: 20 homes lost and more being lost; fire has slopped Crab Flats road, not a lot in lower elevations where it's losing the wind; so far not in the Deep Creek Drainage; if you see the need to shut off Gas or Edison and get the reps to set up whatever you need to have |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Two structures fully engulfed on Klondike |
| Mon 10/22 |
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Please keep this log for transcription only. Thank you. VickiW |
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