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respond to Marin and Amador for a hot spot |
| Sun 10/28 |
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State Route 18 is closed between Running Springs and Arrowbear is down to one lane; sewer line break; crews on scene trying to fix it. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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going to drop a line just above the "R" |
| Sun 10/28 |
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just coming over mount "R" at 9k feet, almost to ski area |
| Sun 10/28 |
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doing recon highway 18 and mount "R", 510 zero is working division I by the ramp. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Bogey coming in over Mount R just below us about 500, we're at 10,000 (air) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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722 working Div B with Vista Grande, dipping out of GV Lake, he's fresh and they'll have enough work for him for a full fuel cycle; 510 in is Div I over the rim |
| Sun 10/28 |
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one prominent smoke in the Crab Flats area (air to air) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Requesting retardant drop on right flank to keep the fire from moving into brush on the east side. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Live Oak and Valley - conversation with strike team, strike team leader has been trying to get a hold of them. (Transcriber thought.. This morning strike teams were sent down into the canyon below Live Oak to work the snags, this one just surfaced and came into radio contact.) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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CHP is having trouble with OHVs coming in on the Sonoma side; they are getting past the CHP roadblocks |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Div U is looking for one drop from you |
| Sun 10/28 |
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IR finishing the Slide then doing Grass Valley. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Military fixed wing with IR capability coming in (not sure where). |
| Sun 10/28 |
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{missed beginning} 33% humidity, winds light - weather taken on the west aspect of Div T |
1015 AM PDT SUN OCT 28 2007
UPDATED FOR WINDS...WEATHER AND NEXT SATURDAY OUTLOOK
.DISCUSSION...
TODAY A BRIEF HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL BRING A VERY WEAK OFFSHORE
FLOW AND WARMER...DRIER CONDITIONS. MINIMUM RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL
DROP TO NEAR 10 PERCENT IN PORTIONS OF THE MOUNTAINS AND INLAND
VALLEYS. PRESSURE GRADIENTS WILL BE VERY WEAK TODAY AND EARLY MONDAY
WITH AN EASTERLY 5 TO 10 MPH WIND COMPONENT...EXCEPT FOR THE
AFTERNOON SEABREEZE NEAR THE COAST.
FOR MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY...ONSHORE WINDS WILL RETURN
WITH GUSTY WESTERLY WINDS AT TIMES BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON AS A TROUGH
PASSES TO THE NORTH. ONSHORE FLOW AND THE MARINE LAYER WILL BRING
COOLER AIR AND HIGHER HUMIDITIES. THE MARINE LAYER WILL DEEPEN
MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY WITH AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS...FOG AND SOME
DRIZZLE ACROSS THE COAST AND VALLEYS AND PUSHING FARTHER INLAND TO
THE FOOTHILLS OR LOWER COASTAL SLOPES OF THE MOUNTAINS.
LOOKING AHEAD TO THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...EXPECT FAIR WEATHER AND
A WEAK ONSHORE FLOW PATTERN...WITH AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS AND FOG NEAR
THE COAST IN THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS.
NEXT SATURDAY...A WEAK TO MODERATE SANTA ANA WIND EVENT IS POSSIBLE.
OFFSHORE FLOW IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP SATURDAY AND GRADUALLY WEAKEN
SUNDAY...BRINGING VERY DRY AND WARMER CONDITIONS. THE EXACT STRENGTH
OF THE OFFSHORE FLOW IS STILL UNCERTAIN BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR
MODERATELY STRONG GUSTY WINDS THROUGH AND BELOW MOUNTAIN CANYONS AND
PASSES.
SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
INCLUDING THE MOUNTAIN TOP AND FRONT COUNTRY RANGER DISTRICTS OF
THE SAN BERNARDINO NATIONAL FOREST-RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
INCLUDING THE SAN JACINTO RANGER DISTRICT OF THE SAN BERNARDINO
NATIONAL FOREST-
1015 AM PDT SUN OCT 28 2007
.TODAY...
SKY/WEATHER.........PARTLY CLOUDY...BECOMING MOSTLY SUNNY. AREAS OF
SMOKE.
MAX TEMPERATURE.....73 TO 83.
MIN HUMIDITY........10 TO 15 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........VARIABLE 2 TO 5 MPH BECOMING UPSLOPE/UPVALLEY
2 TO 6 MPH.
RIDGETOP.........EAST TO SOUTHEAST 3 TO 8 MPH.
LAL.................1.
.TONIGHT...
SKY/WEATHER.........PARTLY CLOUDY. AREAS OF SMOKE.
MIN TEMPERATURE.....39 TO 49.
MAX HUMIDITY........40 TO 50 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........DOWNSLOPE 2 TO 4 MPH.
RIDGETOP.........SOUTHEAST 5 MPH.
LAL.................1.
.MONDAY...
SKY/WEATHER.........MOSTLY SUNNY. AREAS OF SMOKE.
MAX TEMPERATURE.....68 TO 78.
MIN HUMIDITY........15 TO 20 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........UPSLOPE 2 TO 5 MPH BECOMING SOUTHWEST 10 TO
15 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON.
RIDGETOP.........SOUTH 5 TO 10 MPH BECOMING SOUTHWEST 10 TO 15 MPH
IN THE AFTERNOON.
LAL.................1.
FORECAST DAYS 3 THROUGH 7...
SUSTAINED WINDS LESS THAN 20 MPH EXCEPT WHEN SPECIFIED
.TUESDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS...FOG AND DRIZZLE
ALONG THE COASTAL SLOPES IN THE NIGHT AND MORNING. LOWS 38 TO 48.
HIGHS 68 TO 78.
.WEDNESDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS...FOG AND DRIZZLE
ALONG THE COASTAL SLOPES IN THE NIGHT AND MORNING. LOWS 35 TO 45.
HIGHS 62 TO 72.
.THURSDAY...MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 34 TO 44. HIGHS 62 TO 72.
.FRIDAY...MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 34 TO 44. HIGHS 63 TO 73.
.SATURDAY...BREEZY TO WINDY. MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 35 TO 45. HIGHS 63
TO 73. WINDS NORTHEAST 20 TO 30 MPH WITH POSSIBLE LOCAL GUSTS OVER
45 MPH NEAR PASSES AND CANYONS.
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| Sun 10/28 |
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What's the policy on vehicles here in the (?) areas - have some parked with no one around. Are we issuing warnings or are we going to cite? (Response was unreadable.) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Confirmed via press release: http://www.rimoftheworld.net/columns/news/mandatory_evacuations |
| Sun 10/28 |
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From: Inciweb Website |
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The following press release confirms the lifting of the mandatory evacuation for Lake Arrowhead effective noon today:
NEWS RELEASE
From the County of San Bernardino
http://www.sbcounty.gov/
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
The mandatory evacuation order for the communities of Twin Peaks, Rim Forest, Blue Jay, Agua Fria, Deer Lodge Park, Sky Forest, Cedar Glen and the majority of Lake Arrowhead will be reduced to voluntary evacuation effective 12:00 p.m. on October 28, 2007.
The area will be open to residents and re-entry passes will not be issued and are not required.
The areas that suffered extensive fire damage will remain under a mandatory evacuation area with road closures at the following locations:
聞 Brentwood Drive @ Sonoma Drive
聞 San Benito Drive @ Pinehurst Drive
聞 Brentwood Drive @ Pinehurst Drive
聞 Brentwood Drive @ Oakmont Drive
聞 Brentwood Drive @ Grass Valley Drive
Other areas under a mandatory evacuation remain in effect until further notice (Running Springs, Arrow Bear and Green Valley Lake).
Residents returning to their homes should be aware of the following:
All of the affected areas suffered power outages for some period of time during the fire. Use caution before eating food in your refrigerator or freezer. Food can be spoiled due to power outages. Spoiled food must be disposed of safely and properly. Pick up a food disposal bag, mask, gloves and more information at all Fire Stations.
A light amount of smoke coming from the fire lines is to be expected. Within Lake Arrowhead, there will still be fire patrols monitoring both fire perimeters.
Please call the San Bernardino County Fire Information Line at (909) 355-8800 for updated information.
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MANDATORY EVACUATION FOR MOST OF LAKE ARROWHEAD AREAS LIFTED EFFECTIVE NOON TODAY, 10/28. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Air Attack to IC, morning recon: Looks very good; nothing with any significant heat near any of the structures. We'll be back and forth between the Slide and the Grass today - if you come up with anything just let us know and we'll check it out. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Branch 1: I've got the road group here with the dozers and a water tender- where do you want them? (Response: Just 87 (meet) with me here at camp and we'll go from there.) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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If you're asking about that 40 acres down below the 18, no we didn't get to it, we've been trying to get this tied up over here. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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(Little scanner traffic this morning other than assigning resources to various locations.)
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| Sun 10/28 |
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From: Inciweb Website |
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Grass Fire update 9:00 p.m. 10/27. Note that 'growth potential' has been reduced to LOW, containment is 95%, and the target contaiment date is today:Current Situation
Total Personnel 563
Size 1,140 acres
Percent Contained 95%
Estimated Containment Date 10/28/2007 at hrs.
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Backing, creeping and smoldering.
Significant Events Closure orders remain in effect for a large area surrounding the Grass Valley and Slide Fires. Effective mop up of the perimeter is on-going.
Outlook
Planned Actions Crews will continue mop up of the fire perimeter.
Projected Movement There is no anticipated incident movement.
Growth Potential Low.
Terrain Difficulty Extreme
Containment Target With adequate resources and favorable weather conditions the chosen strategy is likely to succeed.
Remarks Infrared planes flew the fire to determine acreage. Damage assessment teams continue their work.
Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from just east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect.
Crestline and Lake Gregory evacuations have been reduced to voluntary.
Voluntary Evacuations for Cedar Pines Park and Valley of Enchantment remain in effect.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330 except those with Sheriff's passes to voluntary evacuation areas.
Access to Big Bear is available from Hwy 38 via the I-10 as well as via Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Resources on Scene-- 54 Engines, 3 water tenders, 12 hand crews and 1 dozer, 0 Helicopters (shared between Grass Valley and Slide fires).
162 structures destroyed and 20 structures damaged.
Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuations for Highland have been lifted.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 6000 homes threatened for the Grass fire area and 5500 for the Slide fire area.
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| Sun 10/28 |
Source: other |
From: Inciweb Website |
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Slide Fire update 9:00 p.m. 10/27 - Note that 'growth potential' has been reduced to Medium and there was precipitation on several areas of the fire. Current Situation:
Total Personnel 2,129
Size 12,789 acres
Percent Contained 65%
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Low intensity surface fire.
Significant Events Made good progress containing fire spread on all flanks.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop up and patrol in residential areas. Improve fire line.
Projected Movement The fire has the potential to move to the north.
Growth Potential Medium
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Current strategy is proving to be successful.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuations for Highland have been lifted.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 6000 homes threatened for the Grass fire area and 5500 for the Slide fire area.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330 except for those with Sheriff's passes into voluntary evacuation areas on Hwy 18 from Waterman and Hwy 138.
Resources on Scene-- 297 Engines, 19 water tenders, 33 hand crews and 26 dozers.
There is no estimated date for release of the Damage report.
Utility companies working hard to support re-entry. Very light precipitation in some areas of the fire.
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{Scanners have been all but silent. RS Transcriber offline. Welcome back RIMOFTHEWORLD.net.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: ROTW Discussion Thread |
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Back from a one-week tour of duty of structure protection on the Slide Incident, and I'd like to deliver a message.
After saving several dozen houses that were in the path of the fire, and losing two- DEFENSIBLE SPACE WORKS.
Resources were thin on the initial attack, and, because of the attentive homeowners, we had enough time to keep all those houses from being total losses. Raking pine needles and cutting ladder fuels is very simple stuff, and I want to personally thank all the homeowners that had that taken care of.
Our acting engine captain for the incident will be spreading this knowledge via the next Fire Safe Council meeting. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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There is a gas leak at an address of a burned out home. The structure to the west of the burned out home is still standing. The address of the standing home is 26096 Walnut Hills. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Spot fires just east off 330 at Fredalba road; looks like a tree on fire |
| Sat 10/27 |
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30971 Glen Oak Drive Running Springs - security check; house is secure with locks and two ferocious dogs out front |
| Sat 10/27 |
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3039 Running Springs School Road - audible alarm; SO enroute |
| Sat 10/27 |
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the stump at Wagon Wheel and Deep Creek is out (report earlier from CHP CAD) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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Incident: 1390
Type: Report of Fire
Location: WAGON WHEEL DR AT DEEP CREEK DR
Zoom Map: 519 7A
5:49PM 1039 OFC
5:43PM TREE STUMP ON FIRE
5:42PM 1039 SBCC--CONF CALL
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| Sat 10/27 |
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From: http://www.sbdiocese.org/ websit |
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"Despite its location at "ground zero" of this week's mountain wildfire, St. Anne in the Mountains Church and Parish Center in Running Springs have survived in tact, parish officials reported Friday morning. Our Lady of the Lake and St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, two other mountain parishes that were threatened, are confirmed to have also survived the fire.
St. Anne Parish Secretary Terri MacDonald reported that her husband had been escorted up to Running Springs late Thursday and witnessed both the Church and retreat center untouched by the fire - although not by much. The parish retreat center is on the same side of Fredalba Road where the fire burned several other structures."
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| Sat 10/27 |
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we just heard noises inside 1083 Nedelhorn but received no answers to our calls; need status of SO |
| Sat 10/27 |
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(Surveying homes) in my area West side of Hunsaker is complete; they're still working on the east side. Will call you with totals. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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open door at 1083 Nedelhorn(sp?) - unit on scene; law enforcement enroute |
| Sat 10/27 |
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1977 Willow - Open Door (Running Springs) - security check |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air support: What do you feel about cutting off a little early tonight and giving these guys a little break? Yeah, sounds good. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: Bb Transcriber |
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Intermittent light rain falling in Big Bear at this time. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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we're getting enough rain to cover the highway now - SR38 |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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Incident: 0961
Type: Traffic Collision - Minor Injuries
Location: SR173 JSO SR138
Zoom Map: 4656 7A
2:09PM ON ATV DOING FIRE SWEEPS AND ON DUTY
2:00PM PER S1 ON DUTY SO - WILL BE
ROLLING THEIR OWN 1185 FOR 1ST VEH WILL
CHECK FOR 2ND
1:59PM ON DUTY , UNIT POSS ATV DOING
FIRE SWEEPS
1:49PM UNKN INJURIES THEY HAVE 41/42
ENRT
1:48PM SBSO MOTOR DWN VS VEH |
| Sat 10/27 |
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{Note - most of today's scanner traffic has been air support - directing drops and coordinating efforts.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
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30941 Glen Oak - open door - security check |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to ground - we're getting precip up high here, is any of that reaching to ground where you are? |
| Sat 10/27 |
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responding to a grass fire off Deep Creek (Running Springs) {This was an old call from earlier today - Dispatch is showing that resources were added to the call.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
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{only heard one side of converation} butler 2 fire - it has slopped all together; hand lines in here; a long ways, probably a mile; the old black is pretty new, slops; I haven't seen any flames. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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138/173 medical aid involving a bicyclist |
| Sat 10/27 |
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CHP Helicopter 80 is bringing some dignitaries to view the fires; guess they're going to have Ca Secretary of State on board or something like that; Helicopter 534 has lifted off Heaps Peak to the Slide to take pictures of the point of origin |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: Live Oak-via phone to ROTW |
To: thank you |
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{Running Springs} 30509 Live Oak has some damage, but is standing
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: CPP-via email-Thank you |
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there is lite rain falling in cedarpines park |
| Sat 10/27 |
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at that structure fire in Arrowbear County says that there's a smell of natural gas now |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: PIO at IC - via phone to ROTW |
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according to the Public Information Officer - no injuries at Music Camp Road
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| Sat 10/27 |
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we do not have an exact address it is in the 33000 block of Music Camp Road. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Isolated incident unrelated to the Slide Fire (Music Camp Road structure fire) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Need a fire investigator to the 33000 block of Music Camp Road |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Edison is going to take down the power pole at Wagon Wheel |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: Nob Hill-via phone to ROTW |
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more info on Nob Hill forthcoming (lost cell signal); according to the eyewitness - fire fighters saved that area (Nob Hill) big time. The fire threatened the whole tract and rolled right up to the back of all those houses on the east side. |
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