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Confirmed via press release: http://www.rimoftheworld.net/columns/news/mandatory_evacuations |
| Sun 10/28 |
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From: Inciweb Website |
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The following press release confirms the lifting of the mandatory evacuation for Lake Arrowhead effective noon today:
NEWS RELEASE
From the County of San Bernardino
http://www.sbcounty.gov/
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
The mandatory evacuation order for the communities of Twin Peaks, Rim Forest, Blue Jay, Agua Fria, Deer Lodge Park, Sky Forest, Cedar Glen and the majority of Lake Arrowhead will be reduced to voluntary evacuation effective 12:00 p.m. on October 28, 2007.
The area will be open to residents and re-entry passes will not be issued and are not required.
The areas that suffered extensive fire damage will remain under a mandatory evacuation area with road closures at the following locations:
•· Brentwood Drive @ Sonoma Drive
•· San Benito Drive @ Pinehurst Drive
•· Brentwood Drive @ Pinehurst Drive
•· Brentwood Drive @ Oakmont Drive
•· Brentwood Drive @ Grass Valley Drive
Other areas under a mandatory evacuation remain in effect until further notice (Running Springs, Arrow Bear and Green Valley Lake).
Residents returning to their homes should be aware of the following:
All of the affected areas suffered power outages for some period of time during the fire. Use caution before eating food in your refrigerator or freezer. Food can be spoiled due to power outages. Spoiled food must be disposed of safely and properly. Pick up a food disposal bag, mask, gloves and more information at all Fire Stations.
A light amount of smoke coming from the fire lines is to be expected. Within Lake Arrowhead, there will still be fire patrols monitoring both fire perimeters.
Please call the San Bernardino County Fire Information Line at (909) 355-8800 for updated information.
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MANDATORY EVACUATION FOR MOST OF LAKE ARROWHEAD AREAS LIFTED EFFECTIVE NOON TODAY, 10/28. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Air Attack to IC, morning recon: Looks very good; nothing with any significant heat near any of the structures. We'll be back and forth between the Slide and the Grass today - if you come up with anything just let us know and we'll check it out. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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Branch 1: I've got the road group here with the dozers and a water tender- where do you want them? (Response: Just 87 (meet) with me here at camp and we'll go from there.) |
| Sun 10/28 |
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If you're asking about that 40 acres down below the 18, no we didn't get to it, we've been trying to get this tied up over here. |
| Sun 10/28 |
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(Little scanner traffic this morning other than assigning resources to various locations.)
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| Sun 10/28 |
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From: Inciweb Website |
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Grass Fire update 9:00 p.m. 10/27. Note that 'growth potential' has been reduced to LOW, containment is 95%, and the target contaiment date is today:Current Situation
Total Personnel 563
Size 1,140 acres
Percent Contained 95%
Estimated Containment Date 10/28/2007 at hrs.
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Backing, creeping and smoldering.
Significant Events Closure orders remain in effect for a large area surrounding the Grass Valley and Slide Fires. Effective mop up of the perimeter is on-going.
Outlook
Planned Actions Crews will continue mop up of the fire perimeter.
Projected Movement There is no anticipated incident movement.
Growth Potential Low.
Terrain Difficulty Extreme
Containment Target With adequate resources and favorable weather conditions the chosen strategy is likely to succeed.
Remarks Infrared planes flew the fire to determine acreage. Damage assessment teams continue their work.
Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from just east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect.
Crestline and Lake Gregory evacuations have been reduced to voluntary.
Voluntary Evacuations for Cedar Pines Park and Valley of Enchantment remain in effect.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330 except those with Sheriff's passes to voluntary evacuation areas.
Access to Big Bear is available from Hwy 38 via the I-10 as well as via Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Resources on Scene-- 54 Engines, 3 water tenders, 12 hand crews and 1 dozer, 0 Helicopters (shared between Grass Valley and Slide fires).
162 structures destroyed and 20 structures damaged.
Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuations for Highland have been lifted.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 6000 homes threatened for the Grass fire area and 5500 for the Slide fire area.
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| Sun 10/28 |
Source: other |
From: Inciweb Website |
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Slide Fire update 9:00 p.m. 10/27 - Note that 'growth potential' has been reduced to Medium and there was precipitation on several areas of the fire. Current Situation:
Total Personnel 2,129
Size 12,789 acres
Percent Contained 65%
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Low intensity surface fire.
Significant Events Made good progress containing fire spread on all flanks.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop up and patrol in residential areas. Improve fire line.
Projected Movement The fire has the potential to move to the north.
Growth Potential Medium
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Current strategy is proving to be successful.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuations for Highland have been lifted.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 6000 homes threatened for the Grass fire area and 5500 for the Slide fire area.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330 except for those with Sheriff's passes into voluntary evacuation areas on Hwy 18 from Waterman and Hwy 138.
Resources on Scene-- 297 Engines, 19 water tenders, 33 hand crews and 26 dozers.
There is no estimated date for release of the Damage report.
Utility companies working hard to support re-entry. Very light precipitation in some areas of the fire.
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{Scanners have been all but silent. RS Transcriber offline. Welcome back RIMOFTHEWORLD.net.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: ROTW Discussion Thread |
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Back from a one-week tour of duty of structure protection on the Slide Incident, and I'd like to deliver a message.
After saving several dozen houses that were in the path of the fire, and losing two- DEFENSIBLE SPACE WORKS.
Resources were thin on the initial attack, and, because of the attentive homeowners, we had enough time to keep all those houses from being total losses. Raking pine needles and cutting ladder fuels is very simple stuff, and I want to personally thank all the homeowners that had that taken care of.
Our acting engine captain for the incident will be spreading this knowledge via the next Fire Safe Council meeting. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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There is a gas leak at an address of a burned out home. The structure to the west of the burned out home is still standing. The address of the standing home is 26096 Walnut Hills. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Spot fires just east off 330 at Fredalba road; looks like a tree on fire |
| Sat 10/27 |
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30971 Glen Oak Drive Running Springs - security check; house is secure with locks and two ferocious dogs out front |
| Sat 10/27 |
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3039 Running Springs School Road - audible alarm; SO enroute |
| Sat 10/27 |
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the stump at Wagon Wheel and Deep Creek is out (report earlier from CHP CAD) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: CHP CAD |
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Incident: 1390
Type: Report of Fire
Location: WAGON WHEEL DR AT DEEP CREEK DR
Zoom Map: 519 7A
5:49PM 1039 OFC
5:43PM TREE STUMP ON FIRE
5:42PM 1039 SBCC--CONF CALL
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| Sat 10/27 |
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From: http://www.sbdiocese.org/ websit |
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"Despite its location at "ground zero" of this week's mountain wildfire, St. Anne in the Mountains Church and Parish Center in Running Springs have survived in tact, parish officials reported Friday morning. Our Lady of the Lake and St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, two other mountain parishes that were threatened, are confirmed to have also survived the fire.
St. Anne Parish Secretary Terri MacDonald reported that her husband had been escorted up to Running Springs late Thursday and witnessed both the Church and retreat center untouched by the fire - although not by much. The parish retreat center is on the same side of Fredalba Road where the fire burned several other structures."
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| Sat 10/27 |
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we just heard noises inside 1083 Nedelhorn but received no answers to our calls; need status of SO |
| Sat 10/27 |
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(Surveying homes) in my area West side of Hunsaker is complete; they're still working on the east side. Will call you with totals. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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open door at 1083 Nedelhorn(sp?) - unit on scene; law enforcement enroute |
| Sat 10/27 |
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1977 Willow - Open Door (Running Springs) - security check |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air support: What do you feel about cutting off a little early tonight and giving these guys a little break? Yeah, sounds good. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: Bb Transcriber |
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Intermittent light rain falling in Big Bear at this time. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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we're getting enough rain to cover the highway now - SR38 |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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Incident: 0961
Type: Traffic Collision - Minor Injuries
Location: SR173 JSO SR138
Zoom Map: 4656 7A
2:09PM ON ATV DOING FIRE SWEEPS AND ON DUTY
2:00PM PER S1 ON DUTY SO - WILL BE
ROLLING THEIR OWN 1185 FOR 1ST VEH WILL
CHECK FOR 2ND
1:59PM ON DUTY , UNIT POSS ATV DOING
FIRE SWEEPS
1:49PM UNKN INJURIES THEY HAVE 41/42
ENRT
1:48PM SBSO MOTOR DWN VS VEH |
| Sat 10/27 |
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{Note - most of today's scanner traffic has been air support - directing drops and coordinating efforts.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
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30941 Glen Oak - open door - security check |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to ground - we're getting precip up high here, is any of that reaching to ground where you are? |
| Sat 10/27 |
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responding to a grass fire off Deep Creek (Running Springs) {This was an old call from earlier today - Dispatch is showing that resources were added to the call.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
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{only heard one side of converation} butler 2 fire - it has slopped all together; hand lines in here; a long ways, probably a mile; the old black is pretty new, slops; I haven't seen any flames. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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138/173 medical aid involving a bicyclist |
| Sat 10/27 |
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CHP Helicopter 80 is bringing some dignitaries to view the fires; guess they're going to have Ca Secretary of State on board or something like that; Helicopter 534 has lifted off Heaps Peak to the Slide to take pictures of the point of origin |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: Live Oak-via phone to ROTW |
To: thank you |
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{Running Springs} 30509 Live Oak has some damage, but is standing
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: CPP-via email-Thank you |
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there is lite rain falling in cedarpines park |
| Sat 10/27 |
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at that structure fire in Arrowbear County says that there's a smell of natural gas now |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: PIO at IC - via phone to ROTW |
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according to the Public Information Officer - no injuries at Music Camp Road
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| Sat 10/27 |
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we do not have an exact address it is in the 33000 block of Music Camp Road. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Isolated incident unrelated to the Slide Fire (Music Camp Road structure fire) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Need a fire investigator to the 33000 block of Music Camp Road |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Edison is going to take down the power pole at Wagon Wheel |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: Nob Hill-via phone to ROTW |
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more info on Nob Hill forthcoming (lost cell signal); according to the eyewitness - fire fighters saved that area (Nob Hill) big time. The fire threatened the whole tract and rolled right up to the back of all those houses on the east side. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: Nob Hill Info via phone to ROTW |
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eyewitness from Nob Hill -
1891 Nob Hill destroyed -
1901 Nob Hill light damage |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We're getting other reports of civillians on 1N09 and 1N21, trying to get into Running Springs; there was a grey Toyota, looks to be loaded with belongings, going up Live Oak, too. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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late model gray Toyota loaded with belongings going up Live Oak off 330 |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We've just had additional reports that civilians are attempting to enter at the lower lane going up to using 1N09 and 1N21; apparently civilians are trying to use that road to get back in to Running Springs. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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there is no one on 1N02 or on 1N09 (off 330 all the way to the 38 (*earlier reports of civilians accessing Running Springs via those routes) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Majesta Peak down to the black (air to air); tie them off in Alpha we're have trouble seeing in there (due to smoke) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: Lake Gregory-via email |
To: Thank you |
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From Lake Gregory Community Church....
Lake Gregory Community Church invites all community members to their 10:30 am service this Sunday, October 28th. This service will be a community service for everyone to come together and thank God for saving our portion of the mountain and pray for those less fortunate. After the service, in Lake Gregory fashion, there will be a celebration with plenty of food and beverages prepared by Lynn and Carla Segrest (Chateau Gourmet owners). This will be a great way to bless the community so please invite all your neighbors and friends. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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no knowledge of the uphill side; we were instructed to clear the downhill side of Del Norte (Gas Company? -Lake Arrowhead area) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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we have knocked the fire down (Music Camp Road Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Start Edison to this location. (Music Camp Road in Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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do you need an airship? Possible broken leg. Ground ambulance is enroute. (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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845 Del Norte - gas line emitting natural gas; notify the gas company very strong odor in that vicinity (Lake Arrowhead area) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Cancelling 92 and 129 - forestry can handle with the strike team on scene (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Forestry states they have power lines down; use caution (to Eng 94 heading to Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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they've got the vegetation knocked down at this address on Music Camp Road (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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small amount of vegetation; vegetation is under control; confirming not associated with the Slide Fire; affirm |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Don't believe it was associated with the Slide Fire, didn't know if it was a threat to the vegetation; checking |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Looks like you've got a civilian with some injuries (at Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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air support over the structure fire on Music Camp Road (Arrowbear); Chief 2700 is on scene; 1 fully involved structure, continue the response; RedNet is the Tac net; We'll be the Music Camp IC |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We have word that people are coming up the 1N09 to the 330 to get into Running Springs. Send Forestry there. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Eng271 dispatched to structure fire - with possible explosions Music Camp Road at SR18 map C510 (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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31585 Old City Creek Running Springs - possible burglary; also 31537 Old City Creek; Sheriff's enroute and are on Old City Creek |
| Sat 10/27 |
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| Sat 10/27 |
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From: Website - Inciweb.org |
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9:00 A.M. Slide Fire update
http://inciweb.org/incident/1005/
Summary
Mandatory Evacuation for east of Crestline to Snow Valley. Voluntary evacuations in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, Lake Gregory and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuation for Highland has been lifted. Evacuation Centers are located at National Orange Show in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds in Victorville. All highways in the San Bernardino Mountains west of Big Bear Dam are closed to upbound traffic except for those with Sheriff's passes to voluntary areas. Access to Big Bear is via Hwy 38 from I-10 in Redlands or from Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0802 hrs.
Location Green Valley Lake, Near Running Springs
Incident Commander Jerry Mcgowan
Current Situation
Total Personnel 1,984
Size 13,800 acres
Percent Contained 35%
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Low intensity fire behavior - active surface and backing with some torching.
Significant Events Making progress containing fire spread on west and north west flanks. Southerly containment lines in the southwest corner of the fire are complete.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop up and patrol around structures, construct containment lines on northern flank of fire.
Projected Movement The fire has the potential to move to the north.
Growth Potential Extreme
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Beginning to achieve success with perimeter control strategy as critical resource needs are met.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuations for Highland have been lifted.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 10,000 homes threatened for the Grass and Slide fire areas.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330 except for those with Sheriff's passes into voluntary evacuation areas on Hwy 18 from Waterman and Hwy 138.
Resources on Scene-- 312 Engines, 22 water tenders, 23 hand crews and 35 dozers, 12 Helicopters (shared between Slide and Grass Valley Fires).
Resources being shared between Slide and Grass Valley fires.
There is no estimate of release of the Damage report
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: KFWB Radio |
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http://www.californiavolunteers.org/ For SB County: http://www.handsoninlandempire.org/HomePage/index.php/home.html ***Wildfire Volunteer Update
Hands On Inland Empire is partnering with
San Bernardino County 2-1-1 and monitoring the wildfire situation locally and in neighboring communities to assess volunteer needs. We expect to be entering the recovery phase shortly and will keep you posted on needs to support those who have lost their homes in the fire.
Please DO NOT go directly to evacuation sites. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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In addition to the other locations, 138 at the Cottonwood Station has a checkpoint set up - can issue a permit from their cars there (for entry into the Crestline, VOE, CPP area |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: NOTE: |
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RIMOFTHEWORLD.net will be on KFWB Radio at 10:10 am - Frequency is AM - 980. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Helco to 72D - go ahead and Start dipping out of GVL; we have 2 dipping out of it now |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We have a delivery of hygine kits coming into camp; (Response: "I've been trying to take a shower every day...")
We had a list of who needed one and your name was at the top of it...(A little firefighter levity.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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2 helicopters to Arrowhead for drops |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We're not accepting any more Red Cross stuff over here at supply. Just ask them to take it to another fire. That's the official word. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: LAE-via email-thanks |
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Despite not smelling like smoke, there is considerable particulate matter in the air near LAE visible at night by the simple beam of a flashlight - not small stuff either but big flakes swirling around. Highly recommend anyone up here or coming up wear a mask of decent quality. HEPA filter is best. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Hand crews and engines going into Trinity and Black Oaks area for rehab. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: via email - Thank you |
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Calvary Chapel of Running Springs will meet Sunday at The Barn for service and prayer and fellowship Please Pray for our church family for all our loved ones who have lost their homes. We love you.
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| Sat 10/27 |
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FYI, the State Farm reps just started in the convoy on the way into the (Lk Arrowhead) Village. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We could use a third Type I (helicopter) over here below those structures, they can use Green Valley to dip, or if it gets too crowded in there we can use the ski area dip. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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need an LEO for motorcycles riding in the closure area on 1N02 south end of 330 |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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2000 lunches being delivered to base camp. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
From: Big Bear Airport frequency |
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Big Bear air traffic control tower for the Slide/Grass is in service for the day and helicopters are deploying receiving their assignments from Air Attack. |
Slide Fire 8am update
Acres Burned: 13,800
Containment: 25%
Structures Threatened: 10,000
Structures Destroyed: 201
Cause: Under Investigation
Total personnel assigned to Slide fire: 1,984
Current Fire Situation, Slide Fire: Improved weather conditions played an important role in allowing firefighters to make good progress on constructing fire containment lines today. Moderate fire spread was reported. One additional structure was lost early in the morning at Running Springs. Structure protection is in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps. Fire crews began construction of direct hand and dozer containment lines. Structure protection groups went door-to-door performing heat checks on all residences within the fire perimeter.
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Grass Valley Fire 8am update
Grass Valley Fire
Acres Burned: 1,140
Containment: 85 %
Structures Threatened: 6,000
Structures Destroyed: 162
Structures Damaged: 20
Cause: Under Investigation
Total personnel assigned to Grass Valley fire: 643
Expected Containment: 10/28/07
Current Fire Situation, Grass Valley Fire: Firefighters successfully completed burn out operations in the Miller Canyon drainage. Firelines held through last nights windy conditions. Crews are mopping up 300’ into the interior of the fire from control lines, and 100% around structures. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Elko, go over to your hot spot now; I think the Feather River (crew) is on their way over there now, they found the 'guiding light.' |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to Air (over Grass): They're getting some crews together to get in there, what I want you to do is cool down that drainage area, we have a tanker coming, but he (Div C) wants it OUT. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack: To repeat, in general, it looks awful good. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to air (unknown which): There's a smoke starting to heat up in there - it's in the middle of a green area that's an island in the middle of a burn area. There's no one there and there's some structures up there above it. I don't see that the green area is boxed in by retardant, let me take a closer look, but I'd feel better if we had someone on it. |
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