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From: http://www.sbdiocese.org/ websit |
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"Despite its location at "ground zero" of this week's mountain wildfire, St. Anne in the Mountains Church and Parish Center in Running Springs have survived in tact, parish officials reported Friday morning. Our Lady of the Lake and St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, two other mountain parishes that were threatened, are confirmed to have also survived the fire.
St. Anne Parish Secretary Terri MacDonald reported that her husband had been escorted up to Running Springs late Thursday and witnessed both the Church and retreat center untouched by the fire - although not by much. The parish retreat center is on the same side of Fredalba Road where the fire burned several other structures."
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we just heard noises inside 1083 Nedelhorn but received no answers to our calls; need status of SO |
| Sat 10/27 |
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(Surveying homes) in my area West side of Hunsaker is complete; they're still working on the east side. Will call you with totals. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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open door at 1083 Nedelhorn(sp?) - unit on scene; law enforcement enroute |
| Sat 10/27 |
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1977 Willow - Open Door (Running Springs) - security check |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air support: What do you feel about cutting off a little early tonight and giving these guys a little break? Yeah, sounds good. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
From: Bb Transcriber |
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Intermittent light rain falling in Big Bear at this time. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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we're getting enough rain to cover the highway now - SR38 |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: CHP |
From: CHP CAD |
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Incident: 0961
Type: Traffic Collision - Minor Injuries
Location: SR173 JSO SR138
Zoom Map: 4656 7A
2:09PM ON ATV DOING FIRE SWEEPS AND ON DUTY
2:00PM PER S1 ON DUTY SO - WILL BE
ROLLING THEIR OWN 1185 FOR 1ST VEH WILL
CHECK FOR 2ND
1:59PM ON DUTY , UNIT POSS ATV DOING
FIRE SWEEPS
1:49PM UNKN INJURIES THEY HAVE 41/42
ENRT
1:48PM SBSO MOTOR DWN VS VEH |
| Sat 10/27 |
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{Note - most of today's scanner traffic has been air support - directing drops and coordinating efforts.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
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30941 Glen Oak - open door - security check |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to ground - we're getting precip up high here, is any of that reaching to ground where you are? |
| Sat 10/27 |
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responding to a grass fire off Deep Creek (Running Springs) {This was an old call from earlier today - Dispatch is showing that resources were added to the call.} |
| Sat 10/27 |
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{only heard one side of converation} butler 2 fire - it has slopped all together; hand lines in here; a long ways, probably a mile; the old black is pretty new, slops; I haven't seen any flames. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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138/173 medical aid involving a bicyclist |
| Sat 10/27 |
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CHP Helicopter 80 is bringing some dignitaries to view the fires; guess they're going to have Ca Secretary of State on board or something like that; Helicopter 534 has lifted off Heaps Peak to the Slide to take pictures of the point of origin |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: Live Oak-via phone to ROTW |
To: thank you |
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{Running Springs} 30509 Live Oak has some damage, but is standing
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: CPP-via email-Thank you |
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there is lite rain falling in cedarpines park |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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at that structure fire in Arrowbear County says that there's a smell of natural gas now |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: PIO at IC - via phone to ROTW |
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according to the Public Information Officer - no injuries at Music Camp Road
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| Sat 10/27 |
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we do not have an exact address it is in the 33000 block of Music Camp Road. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Isolated incident unrelated to the Slide Fire (Music Camp Road structure fire) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Need a fire investigator to the 33000 block of Music Camp Road |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Edison is going to take down the power pole at Wagon Wheel |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: Nob Hill-via phone to ROTW |
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more info on Nob Hill forthcoming (lost cell signal); according to the eyewitness - fire fighters saved that area (Nob Hill) big time. The fire threatened the whole tract and rolled right up to the back of all those houses on the east side. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: Nob Hill Info via phone to ROTW |
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eyewitness from Nob Hill -
1891 Nob Hill destroyed -
1901 Nob Hill light damage |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We're getting other reports of civillians on 1N09 and 1N21, trying to get into Running Springs; there was a grey Toyota, looks to be loaded with belongings, going up Live Oak, too. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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late model gray Toyota loaded with belongings going up Live Oak off 330 |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We've just had additional reports that civilians are attempting to enter at the lower lane going up to using 1N09 and 1N21; apparently civilians are trying to use that road to get back in to Running Springs. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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there is no one on 1N02 or on 1N09 (off 330 all the way to the 38 (*earlier reports of civilians accessing Running Springs via those routes) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Majesta Peak down to the black (air to air); tie them off in Alpha we're have trouble seeing in there (due to smoke) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: Lake Gregory-via email |
To: Thank you |
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From Lake Gregory Community Church....
Lake Gregory Community Church invites all community members to their 10:30 am service this Sunday, October 28th. This service will be a community service for everyone to come together and thank God for saving our portion of the mountain and pray for those less fortunate. After the service, in Lake Gregory fashion, there will be a celebration with plenty of food and beverages prepared by Lynn and Carla Segrest (Chateau Gourmet owners). This will be a great way to bless the community so please invite all your neighbors and friends. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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no knowledge of the uphill side; we were instructed to clear the downhill side of Del Norte (Gas Company? -Lake Arrowhead area) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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we have knocked the fire down (Music Camp Road Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Start Edison to this location. (Music Camp Road in Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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do you need an airship? Possible broken leg. Ground ambulance is enroute. (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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845 Del Norte - gas line emitting natural gas; notify the gas company very strong odor in that vicinity (Lake Arrowhead area) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Cancelling 92 and 129 - forestry can handle with the strike team on scene (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Forestry states they have power lines down; use caution (to Eng 94 heading to Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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they've got the vegetation knocked down at this address on Music Camp Road (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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small amount of vegetation; vegetation is under control; confirming not associated with the Slide Fire; affirm |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Don't believe it was associated with the Slide Fire, didn't know if it was a threat to the vegetation; checking |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Looks like you've got a civilian with some injuries (at Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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air support over the structure fire on Music Camp Road (Arrowbear); Chief 2700 is on scene; 1 fully involved structure, continue the response; RedNet is the Tac net; We'll be the Music Camp IC |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We have word that people are coming up the 1N09 to the 330 to get into Running Springs. Send Forestry there. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Eng271 dispatched to structure fire - with possible explosions Music Camp Road at SR18 map C510 (Arrowbear) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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31585 Old City Creek Running Springs - possible burglary; also 31537 Old City Creek; Sheriff's enroute and are on Old City Creek |
| Sat 10/27 |
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: Website - Inciweb.org |
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9:00 A.M. Slide Fire update
http://inciweb.org/incident/1005/
Summary
Mandatory Evacuation for east of Crestline to Snow Valley. Voluntary evacuations in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, Lake Gregory and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuation for Highland has been lifted. Evacuation Centers are located at National Orange Show in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds in Victorville. All highways in the San Bernardino Mountains west of Big Bear Dam are closed to upbound traffic except for those with Sheriff's passes to voluntary areas. Access to Big Bear is via Hwy 38 from I-10 in Redlands or from Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0802 hrs.
Location Green Valley Lake, Near Running Springs
Incident Commander Jerry Mcgowan
Current Situation
Total Personnel 1,984
Size 13,800 acres
Percent Contained 35%
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Low intensity fire behavior - active surface and backing with some torching.
Significant Events Making progress containing fire spread on west and north west flanks. Southerly containment lines in the southwest corner of the fire are complete.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop up and patrol around structures, construct containment lines on northern flank of fire.
Projected Movement The fire has the potential to move to the north.
Growth Potential Extreme
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Beginning to achieve success with perimeter control strategy as critical resource needs are met.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from east of Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations are in place for Crestline, Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment. Voluntary evacuations for Highland have been lifted.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 10,000 homes threatened for the Grass and Slide fire areas.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330 except for those with Sheriff's passes into voluntary evacuation areas on Hwy 18 from Waterman and Hwy 138.
Resources on Scene-- 312 Engines, 22 water tenders, 23 hand crews and 35 dozers, 12 Helicopters (shared between Slide and Grass Valley Fires).
Resources being shared between Slide and Grass Valley fires.
There is no estimate of release of the Damage report
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: KFWB Radio |
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http://www.californiavolunteers.org/ For SB County: http://www.handsoninlandempire.org/HomePage/index.php/home.html ***Wildfire Volunteer Update
Hands On Inland Empire is partnering with
San Bernardino County 2-1-1 and monitoring the wildfire situation locally and in neighboring communities to assess volunteer needs. We expect to be entering the recovery phase shortly and will keep you posted on needs to support those who have lost their homes in the fire.
Please DO NOT go directly to evacuation sites. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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In addition to the other locations, 138 at the Cottonwood Station has a checkpoint set up - can issue a permit from their cars there (for entry into the Crestline, VOE, CPP area |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: NOTE: |
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RIMOFTHEWORLD.net will be on KFWB Radio at 10:10 am - Frequency is AM - 980. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Helco to 72D - go ahead and Start dipping out of GVL; we have 2 dipping out of it now |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We have a delivery of hygine kits coming into camp; (Response: "I've been trying to take a shower every day...")
We had a list of who needed one and your name was at the top of it...(A little firefighter levity.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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2 helicopters to Arrowhead for drops |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We're not accepting any more Red Cross stuff over here at supply. Just ask them to take it to another fire. That's the official word. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: LAE-via email-thanks |
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Despite not smelling like smoke, there is considerable particulate matter in the air near LAE visible at night by the simple beam of a flashlight - not small stuff either but big flakes swirling around. Highly recommend anyone up here or coming up wear a mask of decent quality. HEPA filter is best. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Hand crews and engines going into Trinity and Black Oaks area for rehab. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: via email - Thank you |
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Calvary Chapel of Running Springs will meet Sunday at The Barn for service and prayer and fellowship Please Pray for our church family for all our loved ones who have lost their homes. We love you.
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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FYI, the State Farm reps just started in the convoy on the way into the (Lk Arrowhead) Village. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We could use a third Type I (helicopter) over here below those structures, they can use Green Valley to dip, or if it gets too crowded in there we can use the ski area dip. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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need an LEO for motorcycles riding in the closure area on 1N02 south end of 330 |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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2000 lunches being delivered to base camp. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
From: Big Bear Airport frequency |
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Big Bear air traffic control tower for the Slide/Grass is in service for the day and helicopters are deploying receiving their assignments from Air Attack. |
Slide Fire 8am update
Acres Burned: 13,800
Containment: 25%
Structures Threatened: 10,000
Structures Destroyed: 201
Cause: Under Investigation
Total personnel assigned to Slide fire: 1,984
Current Fire Situation, Slide Fire: Improved weather conditions played an important role in allowing firefighters to make good progress on constructing fire containment lines today. Moderate fire spread was reported. One additional structure was lost early in the morning at Running Springs. Structure protection is in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps. Fire crews began construction of direct hand and dozer containment lines. Structure protection groups went door-to-door performing heat checks on all residences within the fire perimeter.
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Grass Valley Fire 8am update
Grass Valley Fire
Acres Burned: 1,140
Containment: 85 %
Structures Threatened: 6,000
Structures Destroyed: 162
Structures Damaged: 20
Cause: Under Investigation
Total personnel assigned to Grass Valley fire: 643
Expected Containment: 10/28/07
Current Fire Situation, Grass Valley Fire: Firefighters successfully completed burn out operations in the Miller Canyon drainage. Firelines held through last nights windy conditions. Crews are mopping up 300’ into the interior of the fire from control lines, and 100% around structures. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Elko, go over to your hot spot now; I think the Feather River (crew) is on their way over there now, they found the 'guiding light.' |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to Air (over Grass): They're getting some crews together to get in there, what I want you to do is cool down that drainage area, we have a tanker coming, but he (Div C) wants it OUT. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack: To repeat, in general, it looks awful good. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Air to air (unknown which): There's a smoke starting to heat up in there - it's in the middle of a green area that's an island in the middle of a burn area. There's no one there and there's some structures up there above it. I don't see that the green area is boxed in by retardant, let me take a closer look, but I'd feel better if we had someone on it. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Vehicle check on 330 at the 5000 ft. level. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Air attack over Grass: The smoke is right where your wing tip is now; it's the biggest first concentration of smoke, I think you can see that. I'll fly the ridgeline from the smoke on top to your first big smoke, that will show you where to go. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack over Slide: I'm trying to key in off the retardant, looking for the red, that would be kind of a clue where the 'new black' is. (Over Butler/Slide intersect and having trouble differentiating between the Butler burn area and Slide burn, to know where to work.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to Air: Pick up the hot spot and then go up to the ridge and dive off the edge there; I don't know, that's about a three mile line there. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Air attack setting up for a drop on the hot spot. |
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(Transcriber note - still awaiting AA recon assessment of the Slide.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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SO checking an open door at 31346 Deer Lick. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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There is a hot spot here at Fairway; near Grandview Elementary, west of Walnut Hills. It's one of two spots in the area, but it's starting to build. Get a Forest Service unit out here. It's still about a thousand feet from any of the structures. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Report of smoke at Spyglass and Fairway; fire unit in the area, is checking. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Air Attack 15 leaving the Grass incident enroute to the Slide; no aircraft requests yet on the Grass this morning, I'll let you know what we need here on the Slide in a minute. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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AA15 to Ground (over the Grass fire): All I'm really seeing is a little smoke up on one ridge, and occasional smokes down in the gullies. Nothing on the lower end. There's one smoke - there's a vehicle by it - on the ridge by the golf course where the pavement ends by all the hairpin turns. That's really all of significance that I can see this morning. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Ground to Air Attack: With the success we had yesterday, I'd just like you to go in there and check to be sure everything is inside the black (burned area). |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Air Attack 15 off the ground enroute to the Slide incident, ETA 8 minutes. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Have a subject here at the station - is Cedar Glen still mandatory evacuation? (Response: That's affirm, it's still mandatory.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: SCGACC |
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USFS remarks on the Grass Fire from situation report 10/26, 6:00 p.m.:
Significant Events: The Damage Assessment Team has released the number of structures damaged and destroyed by the Grass Valley Fire. The mandatory evacuation order for the community of Crestline has been reduced to voluntary effective 0900, 10/26/2007. All other evacuation and road closure orders remain in effect. Good progress is being made on line construction in the Miller Canyon drainage. Planned burning operations in the Miller Canyon drainage were completed today.
Remarks: A perimeter mapping flight was conducted during this operational period. We are continuing to work with cooperating agencies and utility companies on planning for re-entry into the mandatory evacuation area. There will be informational meetings regarding the Grass Valley and Slide Fires at 1900 hours tonight at both the Orange Show Fairgrounds and the Victorville Fairgrounds evacuation centers.
Observed Fire Behavior: isolated interior tree torching. Short range spotting, backing, creeping and smoldering.
Planned Actions: Planned actions for the next operatnal period include; Mop up and patrol around structures in Division A on the eastern flank of the fire. Hold, improve and continue mop up in Divisions Z and Y on the western and northern flanks of the fire. Cost to Date: $3,100,000.
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: SCGACC |
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USFS Remarks on Slide Fire in situation report 10/26, 6:00 p.m.: Significant Events: Structure protection in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps established. Initated perimeter control on Div U,V.
Remarks: One additional structure lost early in the AM at Running Springs. Developing contingency plans for fire movement towards Lake Arrowhead. Damage assessment in progress.
Observed Fire Behavior: Moderate intensity, active surface and backing fire, short runs, torching, combined with short range spotting.
Planned Actions: Continue structure protection, mop and patrol around structures; construct direct line in Div H, I, J.
Cost To Date: $4,000,000
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
From: County of San Bernardino |
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Ongoing fire activity is restricting the County's ability to comprehensively assess damages and gather data on individual properties for release to residents. The County pledges to release data to residents as soon as it is compiled and verified |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
From: County of San Bernardino |
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People seeking FEMA or federal assistance information may call 1-800-621-3362.They can also visit the Fire Emergency Local Assistance Center which opened 10/25 at 1:30 p.m. at the National Orange Show Events Center in San Bernardino. The FELAC is a "one-stop" center for more than 40 county, state, and federal services that will assist fire victims in coping with the effects of the disaster. Agencies housed at the center will help fire victims with medical services, disaster aid, rebuilding assistance, document recovery, communications, employment, voting, and other recovery efforts.
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
From: County of San Bernardino |
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Other sources of information include the U.S. Forest Service Fire Information Line at (909) 383-5688 and the San Bernardino County Fire Department Information Line at (909) 355-8800. Information is also available at www.inciweb.org.
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: County of San Bernardino |
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The San Bernardino County 211 Disaster Assistance Hotline is now available through the 211 phone system. 211 is an established information referral phone bank operated by the Inland Empire United Way. The County of San Bernardino will be providing staffing for the 211 phone system to further assist callers with additional questions related to the current fire emergencies.
Callers from phones that need to dial "9" for an outside line or evacuees sheltering outside San Bernardino County boundaries; please call: 1 (888) 435-7565. |
| Sat 10/27 |
Source: scanner |
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Very little traffic except FS and County stations calling in staffing and coverage for the day. |
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| Sat 10/27 |
Source: other |
From: via ROTW Google Chat |
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(regarding "additional structure lost in Running Springs" from the official reports) additional structure that went last night in Running Springs...
It was at Live Oak and Allview. That is all I know. I don't know
which side. The FireFighter said it was on the corner.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
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spot fire burning off the the right just past that mile marker 43.00 on SR 330 |
| Fri 10/26 |
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County Ordinance misdemeanor for violation of passes. (Discussion between a couple officers) Individual says he's a resident here driving a vehicle with out of state plates using his brother's pass. Brother is a resident of Crestline. CDL is coming back in Cedarpines Park with a PO Box Crestline. Don't cite him and keep his pass. He just messed it up for his brother. He's going to have to go back through the whole process again. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Evacuee Meeting-Thank You |
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(ROTW.net family member took notes at the Evacuee Meeting at Orange Show Road. If anyone has additional notes, please email them to news@rimoftheworld.net - Thank you!)
Evacuee Meeting at Orange Show Road –
7pm Friday October 26
Verizon had set up a free internet
access trailer. I asked if I could use
it to bring up RIMOFTHEWORLD.net. I
was told that it was a very popular
site today.
Verizon also had free cell phone
stations for people to make calls.
Connie Chaney (sp?) Information Officer
There was a Spanish interpreter and
sign language interpreter there.
The format was a number of speakers on
various subjects. Afterwards, tables
were set up for individuals to go ask
specific questions. There was no open
Q&A because there were at least 500
people (estimate).
Damage Assessment
Teams assigned to go through
communities and determine whether
properties fit into one of three
categories:
Damaged
Destroyed
Safe
They are not going to release any info
on any structures until they are sure
they are 100% sure they are accurate.
Be patient. They have info but aren’t
going to release it until they are 100%
sure it’s accurate.
Overview of Grass Valley Fire
Frank Davis – Norcal Team II Ground Resources
Emphasized the ground clearing helped
immensely to fight the fire on the
Alpha or East flank of the Grass Valley
Fire. The clearance allowed the fire
lay down and that kept it from crowning
the trees.
1142 acres 75% contained
The Overview for the Slide Fire
Black lines on the big map are
containment lines (map to be posted later)
Approximately 13500 acres and 20% contained
Everything on City Creek at the 330 and
on the west side is basically contained.
Everything on the east side is no
longer progressing but they have teams
up there fighting it.
A portable retardant base is set up in the area.
None of the fire is advancing at this
point but is not contained.
Pounding the north side with aircraft
today to hold it in check and it is working.
“I don’t want to give you false hope;
it’s not advancing but it is still a
very dangerous situation.”
They’re tying a line from Heaps Peak to
the Boy Scout Camp (north of Heaps Peak).
Fire is 2 miles from the Arrowhead east
side structures (at the Heaps Peak/Boy Scout Camp).
Hoping to complete that line (Heaps
Peak to Boy Scout Camp) tomorrow.
“There is still a lot of fire potential
out there.”
“Today , there are 2000 firefighters
working the Slide fire just on
structure protection – that is up from 1300.”
“We are asking for the resources and we
are getting them.”
Re-entry requirements – Sheriff’s Department
#1 priority – protect property at this point
#2 restore utilities
#3 removal of hazardous waste
many other things need to be done
before it is safe to return
They are working really hard to get
people back into their homes as soon as possible.
Looting – Sheriff’s Department
At this time there are 12 hour shifts
and each shift has 80 to 85 people on
the streets in the communities and the
CHP has 40 people per shift. 120
people patrolling the communities all
the time. They arrested two people
today for looting and to date for the
two fires they’ve arrested just over 50 people.
“If we catch them they’re going to jail.”
Office of Emergency Services
“We feel for you.”
Fire Emergency Local Assistance Center
(FELAC) in Rialto 7am-7pm weekdays; 9-5
Saturday and Sunday; phone 800 621 3362.
Information from the 211 system 24/7.
FEMA is there and we’re going to hold
them to it.
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we have pretty good views of that canyon there and it's pretty lit up (view off Hunsaker) |
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we're at the top of Deep Creek and found a tree burning; we're pulling it down then we'll head up to where you are (off Hunsaker, can see trees burning pretty good in that canyon there) (Running Springs) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website - Inciweb.org |
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http://inciweb.org/incident/1005/
7:00 pm Update
Mandatory Evacuation for Green Valley Lake, Arrowbear, and Running Springs. Fire has crossed Hwy 18 in Running Springs and also crossed Hwy 330. Evacuation Centers are located at National Orange Show in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds in Victorville. All highways in the San Bernardino Mountains west of Big Bear Dam are closed to upbound traffic. Access to Big Bear is via Hwy 38 from I-10 in Redlands or from Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0802 hrs.
Location Green Valley Lake, Near Running Springs
Incident Commander Jerry Mcgowan
Current Situation
Total Personnel 1,964
Size 13,700 acres
Percent Contained 20%
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Moderate intensity, active surface and backing fire, short runs, torching, combined with short range spotting.
Significant Events Structure protection in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps established. Initated perimeter control on northeast section.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop and patrol around structures; construct direct line in southwest section and around Running Springs.
Projected Movement The fire has the potential to move to the north towards the Pacific Crest Trail and south in the Fredalba Creek area.
Growth Potential Extreme
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Anticipate success with a perimeter control strategy as critical resources begin to arrive.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations for Highland from North of Highland Avenue, east of Hwy 330 and west of Weaver.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 10,000 homes threatened for the Grass and Slide fire areas.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330.
Hwy 18 to 40th St., 330 bottom (Highland) to top.
Resources on Scene-- 213 Engines, 35 water tenders, 23 hand crews and 6 dozers, 10 Helicopter, Air Tankers 4.
Resources being shared between Slide and Grass Valley fires.
One additional structure lost early in the AM at Running Springs. Developing contingency plans for fire movement towards Lake Arrowhead. Damage assessment in progress.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions Not available
Current Temperature 55 degrees
Current Humidity 31 %
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website - KBHR933.com |
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Progress Made on Slide and Grass Valley Fires; Big Bear Still Safe at This Time -- Update as of 5pm
Over 2,100 firefighters continue to make progress in fire suppression on the Slide Fire and Grass Valley Fire, both of which started early Monday morning.
Fire suppression on the Grass Valley Fire is under the direction of a Type II national incident management team, with the assistance of the U.S. Forest Service as the lead agency among the many crews on this blaze, in the area generally centered northwest of Lake Arrowhead. Containment on this fire is at 70% over 1,100 acres, with an updated structure loss tally at 160. Official reports tell us that firefighters continue to make good progress on line construction, and crews are mopping up 300 feet into the interior of the fire from control lines, and 100% around structures.
The Slide Fire, which has been burning in areas of Green Valley Lake and Running Springs, seems to be slowing and, per our eyewitness reports this afternoon, tends to be smoldering rather than burning, especially in the 13 Turns area of Highway 18, which had been a concern yesterday. Crews have remained in this area both day and night, and the U.S. Forest Service's John Miller notes that though the fire did reach the roadway at certain points, it was a ground fire and most trees along Highway 18 do remain intact. As of yesterday morning, there had been no containment on the Slide Fire, but today's reports are at 15% containment on the 13,378 burned acres on this blaze, under the fire suppression management of a national Type I team.
Last count on structure loss on the Slide Fire was an approximate 200 plus homes, though updated information is expected at this evening's 7pm meetings for evacuees. At both the National Orange Show Fairgrounds in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds, evacuees will be addressed, and maps will be provided to outline damaged and destroyed properties. Updated information in terms of re-entry plans and schedules will be available to those who had to evacuate this week, from Crestline to Snow Valley.
The threat to the Big Bear area remains minimal, though, during fire season, it is always prudent to maintain defensible space and have a family evacuation plan that includes the four Ps: papers, prescriptions, pets and photos. Still, there is no imminent threat to our Valley at this time.
Highway 18 through Lucerne Valley and Highway 38 both remain open to all traffic, and no proof of residency is required to access Big Bear from these roadways.
At this time, the Bear Valley Unified School District does plan to have schools open on Monday, though Saturday's Big Bear High School football games and cross country meet have been rescheduled.
Also, just a couple reminders: the San Bernardino National Forest does remain closed until further notice |
| Fri 10/26 |
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in the area of Walnut Hill off Fairway (and Spyglass) - several subjects took off at a high rate of speed when Forest Service Crews came into the area. Unknown direction of travel. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Forest Lawn Scout Reservation (via email at 5:17pm) - During the night 5 hand crews have arrived and have worked throughout the
night in the camp
- "A whole bunch of equipment has been brought in". (There are currently 10
engines and 2 dozers at work)
- A fire break and an additional line has been established around Pepperdine
- For Big Horn they have burned off (back fire) heavy fuel from the staff
cabins to the lower end of Big Horn. This is going towards Deep Creek and
Sheep Creek in order to turn away fire coming from there.
- They are getting ready to change crews
- The current plan is to put more firebreaks or hand lines between HWY 18
and Pepperdine which will be the focus today
- The Edison Patrol of their power lines have indicated they have found our
problem and said that it is an "easy fix". (Since starting this update, we
have been informed that power has been restored to camp)
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Caltrans Press Release |
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http://sv08data.dot.ca.gov/memos/files/comalert/102607_0.pdf CALTRANS BEGINS FIRE DAMAGE REPAIR Saturday, October 27; Caltrans will begin work to repair areas damaged by the recent fires. On Saturday, October 27th
from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. the #1 lane on the northbound I-215 will be closed. The lane
closure will begin at SR210/30 to University Parkway on northbound I-215.
As damage assessment teams complete their inspections, Caltrans will begin the necessary
work to make the roadways safe for residents to return to the mountain areas. The first of these
repairs have begun on the closed sections of SR 18 and SR 330. Caltrans will coordinate repair
work with public utility companies to expedite the work so the roads can be opened as soon as
possible. We ask for the public’s patience.
Several routes continue to remain closed as the US Forest Service and San Bernardino Fire
Authority continue to contain the fires. Caltrans is supporting their efforts by maintaining access
for emergency vehicles. Motorists can check the following sources to determine if the roads are
open. Changes to road conditions will be updated when new information is available. Visit
www.caltrans8.info and link into the “News and Document Center” for updates. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Update To The Earlier Release:
The County of San Bernardino had hoped and planned on releasing information on damaged and destroyed properties this evening. However the ongoing fire activity and the difficulty of assessing properties in the mountains has prevented the county from being able to compile accurate data in time for tonight’s briefing.
The County is sympathetic to the plight of the fire victims which is why the county simply cannot go forward with damage information until officials are 100% certain that the data is accurate and complete.
Because of the ongoing fire activity the county at this time cannot say when it will be able to release information on damage. Also, the active status of the fires creates the possibility that properties reported as undamaged could be damaged by the end of the incident. Property assessors attempting to compile the data were driven away from their worksites by fire in some instances today.
The emotional distress that would result from giving our citizens inaccurate information about the status of their homes would be irresponsible, and is unacceptable to the Board of Supervisors and fire officials.
The county pledges to release the data as soon as it’s been compiled and verified.
The San Bernardino County 211 Disaster Assistance Hotline will still be accepting calls for people seeking disaster assistance information but the phone bank will not have information about specific properties at this time.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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Mountains Community Hospital Rural Health Clinic, 29099 Hospital Rd #200 in Lake Arrowhead will be open on Monday, 9am-4pm to see patients. The clinic is located in the medical office building next to the hospital. We will take walk-in appointments on this Monday only. However, the walk-in appointments will be reserved for sick visits and those needing medication refills. For appointments after Monday please call 336-9715 to schedule an appointment. The clinic accepts Medi-Cal, Medicare, IEHP, Regal Medical Group and cash patients. The clinic is a family practice clinic, servicing pediatrics and adults for all family practice and women's health needs. Any other questions can be directed to the hospital main line at 336-3651. |
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resident off the mountain received a call from a neighbor stating water was running out of her home in Crestline - Alanda off Lake Gregory. Looking to see if there are resources in the area that could go take a look. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: 3602 |
To: To Dispatch |
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CHP is on scene; car is vacant; cancel response |
| Fri 10/26 |
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cancel assignment (3602); FS has seen it here a couple days; we're checking on it
MA50 and squad 51 (from RS) are on scene; we'll know in about 1 minute if that's sufficient |
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Rescue 91 with MA91 responding; Batallion 3602 responding also |
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MA50 enroute (to 330 at MPL) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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A new Cadillac Escalade 300' over the side on SR330 at mm 30.2 (near middle passing lane) *Updated at 4:18pm*; FS put flagging on the roadside to mark the location. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website |
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Rim Family Services - http://www.rimfamilyservices.org/index.html
Long term effects of trauma
http://www.rimfamilyservices.org/longtermtrauma.html |
| Fri 10/26 |
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started a burning along Crab Flat back to Butler 2 line. We found a ridge and marked with retardant so they can run their dozers; they'll do a burnout and then work direct; in Div U Helicopters 510 and 534 both working with Springville using Green Valley Lake or swimming pool at Boy Scout Camp; Div E is using the ski dip, he's on fuel and return; {missed designator} he's been working Div H, he's on a fuel and mandatory rest, then back using the pool dip by repeater towers; one more helicopter 72D working Div J, had a bucket problem, he was getting that worked out then back to Div J; one helitanker on Div Z on Grass Valley, they were doing a firing operation and had spotting problems, they didn't need anything after that; been checking periodically. I set the fixed wings down about an hour ago. Things have been going pretty good; the south side of the Slide Fire, Div E and F, no helicopters last couple of hours; Divisions U and V have the most heat |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Helco out and he's fresh in the 25AE; Div V we have 722 715 and working with 3615C at Crab Flat, Green Valley dip |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Press Release via email - see http://rimresourcenetwork.org/default.aspx |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Possible looters at an address on Augusta and Walnut Hills. |
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We have an open door at 31520 Mistletoe Drive in Running Springs. |
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| Fri 10/26 |
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I've just returned from Green Valley Lake and compiled this list of houses
that do not have damage. Toward the end there are some listed that are
either gone or have significant damage. I hope this relieves some of the
anxiety.
Angeles Drive (Homes with no visible damage)
33579 under construction
33668 ³Griffitts²
33526
33522 Bear with fish
33525
33520
33510 Mark and Laurie
33499
33501
33494 Round House
33487 ³Susans²
³Bent Lodge²
33478 The Mar Tree House
33474
33470 under construction
33466
33460
33450 ³Taylor¹s²
33429
33436 ³Gasthof Auerswald²
33424
33356
33350
33346 ³Rainey Day Getaway²
33338
33237
33257
33265
33271
33279
33285
33298 White Saturn is okay
Yellow house with white trim and new deck across fro ski slope
San Antonio (Homes with no visible damage)
33512
33514
33517
33570
Red house on corner of San Antonio and dirt drive
Big house newly build (Succa?)
Log cabin tucked back near newly build big house
Falling Leaf (Homes with no visible damage)
33321
33322
33318
33351
Street sign ³E. Second St. 300²
33407
33415
33435
33439
33443
33451 Landeems
33461
33465
33499
33519
33567
33579
33342 Grey house
House next door with chain across
drive sign says ³please stay off deck
no parking²
Shingle house 2/ Burgundy trim
33378
Robin¹s House
33408
33424
33428
33440
33444 ³Johnson¹s²
33458 Notary sign
33460
33510
33532 Red and Green
33536
33544
33574
33580
33588
Ridge Drive (Homes with no visible damage)
33719
33709
33720
33766 ³Chavarin²
Huckabees on Piedras Grande has no visible damage
Juniper (last 2 houses without damage)
32938
32937
Everything else from 32933 and 32934 is gone
Holcomb Creek (Homes with significant damage)
33354 (at Yukon)
Poetry Cabin
3344
33131
33135
33139
33143
33149
Meadow had 3 houses burned but no
addresses. Everything else looked fine.
33135 Green Valley Lake Rd Brown house
with blue trim (no visible damage)
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SO is reporting a flare up at 31070 (Old?) City Creek Road (Running Springs)
(NOTE: Dispatcher said Old City Creek Road) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Adam Aleman, spokesman for the San Bernardino County Assessor's
office, says a partial list of burned homes will be posted at
www.sbassessor.org sometime after 2 pm today. He says 150 homes in
Running Springs and Lake Arrowhead will be on the list. He says the
list will be expanded as more information comes in. Homeowners may
also call the assessor's office at 877-885-7654. |
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Press release from SB County Fire: Meetings Scheduled for Orange Show and Victorville Evacuation Centers
An informational meeting is scheduled for 7 p.m. tonight at the National Orange Show and Victorville Fairgrounds evacuation centers to brief residents of the evacuated areas on the progress of firefighting efforts and display maps of properties damaged or destroyed by the fires.
The meeting is intended only for people who have been evacuated from the fire areas.
The meetings are designed to provide people at the evacuation centers the current update about the firefighting efforts underway for both fires. The latest information about re-entry plans and schedules as well as resources available to assist displaced homeowners will also be shared.
The meetings will also mark the first official release of information about properties damaged or destroyed by the fires. At the direction of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, grief counselors and other professionals who can offer assistance to victims will be on-hand to help families who have lost their homes.
“Our goal is to try to get as much information as we have to the people displaced at these centers,” said Dan Kleinman, Deputy Incident Commander from Cal Team 1. “We know that everyone has been through a very difficult time. We want to provide the resources so that people can start rebuilding their lives”
Residents and property owners who do not plan to attend tonight’s meetings can obtain information about their properties by calling the 211 assistance line no sooner than 7 p.m. tonight. Counselors and other forms of assistance will be available on the 211 line. People calling from outside the county can access 211 by calling 1-888-435-7565.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: San Bernardino Sun |
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From SB Sun website, posted 9:40 a.m.:
Uffer Directs OES to Release Info on Lost Homes.
The following is an e-mail from County Administrative Officer Mark Uffer to the five members of the Board of Supervisors, their chiefs of staff, county emergency services officials and the Assessor's Office, regarding the release of information about wildfire damage to homes in the San Bernardino Mountains.
Hopefully, this clears up what has become a confusing situation.
Uffer's e-mail reads:
"The County Administrative office under the direction of the Board of Supervisors has directed the County Fire Department Office of Emergency Services, Emergency Operations Center, to manage the process of releasing property damage and loss information in the manner that has been customary to the organization.
In an effort to provide the necessary support services to those residents suffering catastrophic losses no information is to be posted online, as this will potentially undermine the residents use of the Local Assistance Center being operated by the County in conjunction with FEMA.
As has been customary, the organization attempts to deliver this very sensitive information in person so as to provide the necessary grief counseling and support services to those affected."
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