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In addition to the other locations, 138 at the Cottonwood Station has a checkpoint set up - can issue a permit from their cars there (for entry into the Crestline, VOE, CPP area |
| Sat 10/27 |
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RIMOFTHEWORLD.net will be on KFWB Radio at 10:10 am - Frequency is AM - 980. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Helco to 72D - go ahead and Start dipping out of GVL; we have 2 dipping out of it now |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We have a delivery of hygine kits coming into camp; (Response: "I've been trying to take a shower every day...")
We had a list of who needed one and your name was at the top of it...(A little firefighter levity.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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2 helicopters to Arrowhead for drops |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We're not accepting any more Red Cross stuff over here at supply. Just ask them to take it to another fire. That's the official word. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: LAE-via email-thanks |
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Despite not smelling like smoke, there is considerable particulate matter in the air near LAE visible at night by the simple beam of a flashlight - not small stuff either but big flakes swirling around. Highly recommend anyone up here or coming up wear a mask of decent quality. HEPA filter is best. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Hand crews and engines going into Trinity and Black Oaks area for rehab. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: via email - Thank you |
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Calvary Chapel of Running Springs will meet Sunday at The Barn for service and prayer and fellowship Please Pray for our church family for all our loved ones who have lost their homes. We love you.
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| Sat 10/27 |
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FYI, the State Farm reps just started in the convoy on the way into the (Lk Arrowhead) Village. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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We could use a third Type I (helicopter) over here below those structures, they can use Green Valley to dip, or if it gets too crowded in there we can use the ski area dip. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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need an LEO for motorcycles riding in the closure area on 1N02 south end of 330 |
| Sat 10/27 |
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2000 lunches being delivered to base camp. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: Big Bear Airport frequency |
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Big Bear air traffic control tower for the Slide/Grass is in service for the day and helicopters are deploying receiving their assignments from Air Attack. |
Slide Fire 8am update
Acres Burned: 13,800
Containment: 25%
Structures Threatened: 10,000
Structures Destroyed: 201
Cause: Under Investigation
Total personnel assigned to Slide fire: 1,984
Current Fire Situation, Slide Fire: Improved weather conditions played an important role in allowing firefighters to make good progress on constructing fire containment lines today. Moderate fire spread was reported. One additional structure was lost early in the morning at Running Springs. Structure protection is in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps. Fire crews began construction of direct hand and dozer containment lines. Structure protection groups went door-to-door performing heat checks on all residences within the fire perimeter.
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Grass Valley Fire 8am update
Grass Valley Fire
Acres Burned: 1,140
Containment: 85 %
Structures Threatened: 6,000
Structures Destroyed: 162
Structures Damaged: 20
Cause: Under Investigation
Total personnel assigned to Grass Valley fire: 643
Expected Containment: 10/28/07
Current Fire Situation, Grass Valley Fire: Firefighters successfully completed burn out operations in the Miller Canyon drainage. Firelines held through last nights windy conditions. Crews are mopping up 300’ into the interior of the fire from control lines, and 100% around structures. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Elko, go over to your hot spot now; I think the Feather River (crew) is on their way over there now, they found the 'guiding light.' |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to Air (over Grass): They're getting some crews together to get in there, what I want you to do is cool down that drainage area, we have a tanker coming, but he (Div C) wants it OUT. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack: To repeat, in general, it looks awful good. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to air (unknown which): There's a smoke starting to heat up in there - it's in the middle of a green area that's an island in the middle of a burn area. There's no one there and there's some structures up there above it. I don't see that the green area is boxed in by retardant, let me take a closer look, but I'd feel better if we had someone on it. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Vehicle check on 330 at the 5000 ft. level. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air attack over Grass: The smoke is right where your wing tip is now; it's the biggest first concentration of smoke, I think you can see that. I'll fly the ridgeline from the smoke on top to your first big smoke, that will show you where to go. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack over Slide: I'm trying to key in off the retardant, looking for the red, that would be kind of a clue where the 'new black' is. (Over Butler/Slide intersect and having trouble differentiating between the Butler burn area and Slide burn, to know where to work.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air to Air: Pick up the hot spot and then go up to the ridge and dive off the edge there; I don't know, that's about a three mile line there. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air attack setting up for a drop on the hot spot. |
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(Transcriber note - still awaiting AA recon assessment of the Slide.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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SO checking an open door at 31346 Deer Lick. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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There is a hot spot here at Fairway; near Grandview Elementary, west of Walnut Hills. It's one of two spots in the area, but it's starting to build. Get a Forest Service unit out here. It's still about a thousand feet from any of the structures. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Report of smoke at Spyglass and Fairway; fire unit in the area, is checking. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack 15 leaving the Grass incident enroute to the Slide; no aircraft requests yet on the Grass this morning, I'll let you know what we need here on the Slide in a minute. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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AA15 to Ground (over the Grass fire): All I'm really seeing is a little smoke up on one ridge, and occasional smokes down in the gullies. Nothing on the lower end. There's one smoke - there's a vehicle by it - on the ridge by the golf course where the pavement ends by all the hairpin turns. That's really all of significance that I can see this morning. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Ground to Air Attack: With the success we had yesterday, I'd just like you to go in there and check to be sure everything is inside the black (burned area). |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Air Attack 15 off the ground enroute to the Slide incident, ETA 8 minutes. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Have a subject here at the station - is Cedar Glen still mandatory evacuation? (Response: That's affirm, it's still mandatory.) |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: SCGACC |
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USFS remarks on the Grass Fire from situation report 10/26, 6:00 p.m.:
Significant Events: The Damage Assessment Team has released the number of structures damaged and destroyed by the Grass Valley Fire. The mandatory evacuation order for the community of Crestline has been reduced to voluntary effective 0900, 10/26/2007. All other evacuation and road closure orders remain in effect. Good progress is being made on line construction in the Miller Canyon drainage. Planned burning operations in the Miller Canyon drainage were completed today.
Remarks: A perimeter mapping flight was conducted during this operational period. We are continuing to work with cooperating agencies and utility companies on planning for re-entry into the mandatory evacuation area. There will be informational meetings regarding the Grass Valley and Slide Fires at 1900 hours tonight at both the Orange Show Fairgrounds and the Victorville Fairgrounds evacuation centers.
Observed Fire Behavior: isolated interior tree torching. Short range spotting, backing, creeping and smoldering.
Planned Actions: Planned actions for the next operatnal period include; Mop up and patrol around structures in Division A on the eastern flank of the fire. Hold, improve and continue mop up in Divisions Z and Y on the western and northern flanks of the fire. Cost to Date: $3,100,000.
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USFS Remarks on Slide Fire in situation report 10/26, 6:00 p.m.: Significant Events: Structure protection in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps established. Initated perimeter control on Div U,V.
Remarks: One additional structure lost early in the AM at Running Springs. Developing contingency plans for fire movement towards Lake Arrowhead. Damage assessment in progress.
Observed Fire Behavior: Moderate intensity, active surface and backing fire, short runs, torching, combined with short range spotting.
Planned Actions: Continue structure protection, mop and patrol around structures; construct direct line in Div H, I, J.
Cost To Date: $4,000,000
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| Sat 10/27 |
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From: County of San Bernardino |
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Ongoing fire activity is restricting the County's ability to comprehensively assess damages and gather data on individual properties for release to residents. The County pledges to release data to residents as soon as it is compiled and verified |
| Sat 10/27 |
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From: County of San Bernardino |
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People seeking FEMA or federal assistance information may call 1-800-621-3362.They can also visit the Fire Emergency Local Assistance Center which opened 10/25 at 1:30 p.m. at the National Orange Show Events Center in San Bernardino. The FELAC is a "one-stop" center for more than 40 county, state, and federal services that will assist fire victims in coping with the effects of the disaster. Agencies housed at the center will help fire victims with medical services, disaster aid, rebuilding assistance, document recovery, communications, employment, voting, and other recovery efforts.
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From: County of San Bernardino |
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Other sources of information include the U.S. Forest Service Fire Information Line at (909) 383-5688 and the San Bernardino County Fire Department Information Line at (909) 355-8800. Information is also available at www.inciweb.org.
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| Sat 10/27 |
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From: County of San Bernardino |
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The San Bernardino County 211 Disaster Assistance Hotline is now available through the 211 phone system. 211 is an established information referral phone bank operated by the Inland Empire United Way. The County of San Bernardino will be providing staffing for the 211 phone system to further assist callers with additional questions related to the current fire emergencies.
Callers from phones that need to dial "9" for an outside line or evacuees sheltering outside San Bernardino County boundaries; please call: 1 (888) 435-7565. |
| Sat 10/27 |
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Very little traffic except FS and County stations calling in staffing and coverage for the day. |
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| Sat 10/27 |
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From: via ROTW Google Chat |
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(regarding "additional structure lost in Running Springs" from the official reports) additional structure that went last night in Running Springs...
It was at Live Oak and Allview. That is all I know. I don't know
which side. The FireFighter said it was on the corner.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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spot fire burning off the the right just past that mile marker 43.00 on SR 330 |
| Fri 10/26 |
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County Ordinance misdemeanor for violation of passes. (Discussion between a couple officers) Individual says he's a resident here driving a vehicle with out of state plates using his brother's pass. Brother is a resident of Crestline. CDL is coming back in Cedarpines Park with a PO Box Crestline. Don't cite him and keep his pass. He just messed it up for his brother. He's going to have to go back through the whole process again. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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(ROTW.net family member took notes at the Evacuee Meeting at Orange Show Road. If anyone has additional notes, please email them to news@rimoftheworld.net - Thank you!)
Evacuee Meeting at Orange Show Road –
7pm Friday October 26
Verizon had set up a free internet
access trailer. I asked if I could use
it to bring up RIMOFTHEWORLD.net. I
was told that it was a very popular
site today.
Verizon also had free cell phone
stations for people to make calls.
Connie Chaney (sp?) Information Officer
There was a Spanish interpreter and
sign language interpreter there.
The format was a number of speakers on
various subjects. Afterwards, tables
were set up for individuals to go ask
specific questions. There was no open
Q&A because there were at least 500
people (estimate).
Damage Assessment
Teams assigned to go through
communities and determine whether
properties fit into one of three
categories:
Damaged
Destroyed
Safe
They are not going to release any info
on any structures until they are sure
they are 100% sure they are accurate.
Be patient. They have info but aren’t
going to release it until they are 100%
sure it’s accurate.
Overview of Grass Valley Fire
Frank Davis – Norcal Team II Ground Resources
Emphasized the ground clearing helped
immensely to fight the fire on the
Alpha or East flank of the Grass Valley
Fire. The clearance allowed the fire
lay down and that kept it from crowning
the trees.
1142 acres 75% contained
The Overview for the Slide Fire
Black lines on the big map are
containment lines (map to be posted later)
Approximately 13500 acres and 20% contained
Everything on City Creek at the 330 and
on the west side is basically contained.
Everything on the east side is no
longer progressing but they have teams
up there fighting it.
A portable retardant base is set up in the area.
None of the fire is advancing at this
point but is not contained.
Pounding the north side with aircraft
today to hold it in check and it is working.
“I don’t want to give you false hope;
it’s not advancing but it is still a
very dangerous situation.”
They’re tying a line from Heaps Peak to
the Boy Scout Camp (north of Heaps Peak).
Fire is 2 miles from the Arrowhead east
side structures (at the Heaps Peak/Boy Scout Camp).
Hoping to complete that line (Heaps
Peak to Boy Scout Camp) tomorrow.
“There is still a lot of fire potential
out there.”
“Today , there are 2000 firefighters
working the Slide fire just on
structure protection – that is up from 1300.”
“We are asking for the resources and we
are getting them.”
Re-entry requirements – Sheriff’s Department
#1 priority – protect property at this point
#2 restore utilities
#3 removal of hazardous waste
many other things need to be done
before it is safe to return
They are working really hard to get
people back into their homes as soon as possible.
Looting – Sheriff’s Department
At this time there are 12 hour shifts
and each shift has 80 to 85 people on
the streets in the communities and the
CHP has 40 people per shift. 120
people patrolling the communities all
the time. They arrested two people
today for looting and to date for the
two fires they’ve arrested just over 50 people.
“If we catch them they’re going to jail.”
Office of Emergency Services
“We feel for you.”
Fire Emergency Local Assistance Center
(FELAC) in Rialto 7am-7pm weekdays; 9-5
Saturday and Sunday; phone 800 621 3362.
Information from the 211 system 24/7.
FEMA is there and we’re going to hold
them to it.
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{RS Transcriber working on transcription from tonight's evac meeting at Orange Show.} |
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we have pretty good views of that canyon there and it's pretty lit up (view off Hunsaker) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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we're at the top of Deep Creek and found a tree burning; we're pulling it down then we'll head up to where you are (off Hunsaker, can see trees burning pretty good in that canyon there) (Running Springs) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website - Inciweb.org |
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http://inciweb.org/incident/1005/
7:00 pm Update
Mandatory Evacuation for Green Valley Lake, Arrowbear, and Running Springs. Fire has crossed Hwy 18 in Running Springs and also crossed Hwy 330. Evacuation Centers are located at National Orange Show in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds in Victorville. All highways in the San Bernardino Mountains west of Big Bear Dam are closed to upbound traffic. Access to Big Bear is via Hwy 38 from I-10 in Redlands or from Hwy 18 through the Hi-Desert in Lucerne Valley.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 10/22/2007 at 0802 hrs.
Location Green Valley Lake, Near Running Springs
Incident Commander Jerry Mcgowan
Current Situation
Total Personnel 1,964
Size 13,700 acres
Percent Contained 20%
Fuels Involved Timber (grass understory)
Fire Behavior Moderate intensity, active surface and backing fire, short runs, torching, combined with short range spotting.
Significant Events Structure protection in place for Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps established. Initated perimeter control on northeast section.
Outlook
Planned Actions Continue structure protection, mop and patrol around structures; construct direct line in southwest section and around Running Springs.
Projected Movement The fire has the potential to move to the north towards the Pacific Crest Trail and south in the Fredalba Creek area.
Growth Potential Extreme
Terrain Difficulty High
Containment Target Anticipate success with a perimeter control strategy as critical resources begin to arrive.
Remarks Mandatory Evacuations for all areas from Crestline to Snow Valley remain in effect. Voluntary evacuations for Highland from North of Highland Avenue, east of Hwy 330 and west of Weaver.
An estimated 200+ homes have been burned.
A total of 10,000 homes threatened for the Grass and Slide fire areas.
Road Closures--All highways west of Big Bear Dam: 138, 18 and 330.
Hwy 18 to 40th St., 330 bottom (Highland) to top.
Resources on Scene-- 213 Engines, 35 water tenders, 23 hand crews and 6 dozers, 10 Helicopter, Air Tankers 4.
Resources being shared between Slide and Grass Valley fires.
One additional structure lost early in the AM at Running Springs. Developing contingency plans for fire movement towards Lake Arrowhead. Damage assessment in progress.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions Not available
Current Temperature 55 degrees
Current Humidity 31 %
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website - KBHR933.com |
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Progress Made on Slide and Grass Valley Fires; Big Bear Still Safe at This Time -- Update as of 5pm
Over 2,100 firefighters continue to make progress in fire suppression on the Slide Fire and Grass Valley Fire, both of which started early Monday morning.
Fire suppression on the Grass Valley Fire is under the direction of a Type II national incident management team, with the assistance of the U.S. Forest Service as the lead agency among the many crews on this blaze, in the area generally centered northwest of Lake Arrowhead. Containment on this fire is at 70% over 1,100 acres, with an updated structure loss tally at 160. Official reports tell us that firefighters continue to make good progress on line construction, and crews are mopping up 300 feet into the interior of the fire from control lines, and 100% around structures.
The Slide Fire, which has been burning in areas of Green Valley Lake and Running Springs, seems to be slowing and, per our eyewitness reports this afternoon, tends to be smoldering rather than burning, especially in the 13 Turns area of Highway 18, which had been a concern yesterday. Crews have remained in this area both day and night, and the U.S. Forest Service's John Miller notes that though the fire did reach the roadway at certain points, it was a ground fire and most trees along Highway 18 do remain intact. As of yesterday morning, there had been no containment on the Slide Fire, but today's reports are at 15% containment on the 13,378 burned acres on this blaze, under the fire suppression management of a national Type I team.
Last count on structure loss on the Slide Fire was an approximate 200 plus homes, though updated information is expected at this evening's 7pm meetings for evacuees. At both the National Orange Show Fairgrounds in San Bernardino and the Victorville Fairgrounds, evacuees will be addressed, and maps will be provided to outline damaged and destroyed properties. Updated information in terms of re-entry plans and schedules will be available to those who had to evacuate this week, from Crestline to Snow Valley.
The threat to the Big Bear area remains minimal, though, during fire season, it is always prudent to maintain defensible space and have a family evacuation plan that includes the four Ps: papers, prescriptions, pets and photos. Still, there is no imminent threat to our Valley at this time.
Highway 18 through Lucerne Valley and Highway 38 both remain open to all traffic, and no proof of residency is required to access Big Bear from these roadways.
At this time, the Bear Valley Unified School District does plan to have schools open on Monday, though Saturday's Big Bear High School football games and cross country meet have been rescheduled.
Also, just a couple reminders: the San Bernardino National Forest does remain closed until further notice |
| Fri 10/26 |
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in the area of Walnut Hill off Fairway (and Spyglass) - several subjects took off at a high rate of speed when Forest Service Crews came into the area. Unknown direction of travel. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Forest Lawn Scout Reservation (via email at 5:17pm) - During the night 5 hand crews have arrived and have worked throughout the
night in the camp
- "A whole bunch of equipment has been brought in". (There are currently 10
engines and 2 dozers at work)
- A fire break and an additional line has been established around Pepperdine
- For Big Horn they have burned off (back fire) heavy fuel from the staff
cabins to the lower end of Big Horn. This is going towards Deep Creek and
Sheep Creek in order to turn away fire coming from there.
- They are getting ready to change crews
- The current plan is to put more firebreaks or hand lines between HWY 18
and Pepperdine which will be the focus today
- The Edison Patrol of their power lines have indicated they have found our
problem and said that it is an "easy fix". (Since starting this update, we
have been informed that power has been restored to camp)
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Caltrans Press Release |
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http://sv08data.dot.ca.gov/memos/files/comalert/102607_0.pdf CALTRANS BEGINS FIRE DAMAGE REPAIR Saturday, October 27; Caltrans will begin work to repair areas damaged by the recent fires. On Saturday, October 27th
from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. the #1 lane on the northbound I-215 will be closed. The lane
closure will begin at SR210/30 to University Parkway on northbound I-215.
As damage assessment teams complete their inspections, Caltrans will begin the necessary
work to make the roadways safe for residents to return to the mountain areas. The first of these
repairs have begun on the closed sections of SR 18 and SR 330. Caltrans will coordinate repair
work with public utility companies to expedite the work so the roads can be opened as soon as
possible. We ask for the public’s patience.
Several routes continue to remain closed as the US Forest Service and San Bernardino Fire
Authority continue to contain the fires. Caltrans is supporting their efforts by maintaining access
for emergency vehicles. Motorists can check the following sources to determine if the roads are
open. Changes to road conditions will be updated when new information is available. Visit
www.caltrans8.info and link into the “News and Document Center” for updates. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Update To The Earlier Release:
The County of San Bernardino had hoped and planned on releasing information on damaged and destroyed properties this evening. However the ongoing fire activity and the difficulty of assessing properties in the mountains has prevented the county from being able to compile accurate data in time for tonight’s briefing.
The County is sympathetic to the plight of the fire victims which is why the county simply cannot go forward with damage information until officials are 100% certain that the data is accurate and complete.
Because of the ongoing fire activity the county at this time cannot say when it will be able to release information on damage. Also, the active status of the fires creates the possibility that properties reported as undamaged could be damaged by the end of the incident. Property assessors attempting to compile the data were driven away from their worksites by fire in some instances today.
The emotional distress that would result from giving our citizens inaccurate information about the status of their homes would be irresponsible, and is unacceptable to the Board of Supervisors and fire officials.
The county pledges to release the data as soon as it’s been compiled and verified.
The San Bernardino County 211 Disaster Assistance Hotline will still be accepting calls for people seeking disaster assistance information but the phone bank will not have information about specific properties at this time.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Mountains Community Hospital Rural Health Clinic, 29099 Hospital Rd #200 in Lake Arrowhead will be open on Monday, 9am-4pm to see patients. The clinic is located in the medical office building next to the hospital. We will take walk-in appointments on this Monday only. However, the walk-in appointments will be reserved for sick visits and those needing medication refills. For appointments after Monday please call 336-9715 to schedule an appointment. The clinic accepts Medi-Cal, Medicare, IEHP, Regal Medical Group and cash patients. The clinic is a family practice clinic, servicing pediatrics and adults for all family practice and women's health needs. Any other questions can be directed to the hospital main line at 336-3651. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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{Transcriber has been offline dealing with personal issues. Back online.} |
| Fri 10/26 |
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resident off the mountain received a call from a neighbor stating water was running out of her home in Crestline - Alanda off Lake Gregory. Looking to see if there are resources in the area that could go take a look. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
From: 3602 |
To: To Dispatch |
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CHP is on scene; car is vacant; cancel response |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
From: 3602 |
To: To Dispatch |
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cancel assignment (3602); FS has seen it here a couple days; we're checking on it
MA50 and squad 51 (from RS) are on scene; we'll know in about 1 minute if that's sufficient |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Rescue 91 with MA91 responding; Batallion 3602 responding also |
| Fri 10/26 |
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MA50 enroute (to 330 at MPL) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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A new Cadillac Escalade 300' over the side on SR330 at mm 30.2 (near middle passing lane) *Updated at 4:18pm*; FS put flagging on the roadside to mark the location. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website |
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Rim Family Services - http://www.rimfamilyservices.org/index.html
Long term effects of trauma
http://www.rimfamilyservices.org/longtermtrauma.html |
| Fri 10/26 |
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started a burning along Crab Flat back to Butler 2 line. We found a ridge and marked with retardant so they can run their dozers; they'll do a burnout and then work direct; in Div U Helicopters 510 and 534 both working with Springville using Green Valley Lake or swimming pool at Boy Scout Camp; Div E is using the ski dip, he's on fuel and return; {missed designator} he's been working Div H, he's on a fuel and mandatory rest, then back using the pool dip by repeater towers; one more helicopter 72D working Div J, had a bucket problem, he was getting that worked out then back to Div J; one helitanker on Div Z on Grass Valley, they were doing a firing operation and had spotting problems, they didn't need anything after that; been checking periodically. I set the fixed wings down about an hour ago. Things have been going pretty good; the south side of the Slide Fire, Div E and F, no helicopters last couple of hours; Divisions U and V have the most heat |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Helco out and he's fresh in the 25AE; Div V we have 722 715 and working with 3615C at Crab Flat, Green Valley dip |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: via email - thank you |
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Press Release via email - see http://rimresourcenetwork.org/default.aspx |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Possible looters at an address on Augusta and Walnut Hills. |
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{Transcriber has been offline.} |
| Fri 10/26 |
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We have an open door at 31520 Mistletoe Drive in Running Springs. |
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{RS Transcriber - ROTW thanks everyone for their emails. We regret that we are unable to personally answer every one of them. You are very much appreciated.} |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: GVL - via email - thank you |
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I've just returned from Green Valley Lake and compiled this list of houses
that do not have damage. Toward the end there are some listed that are
either gone or have significant damage. I hope this relieves some of the
anxiety.
Angeles Drive (Homes with no visible damage)
33579 under construction
33668 ³Griffitts²
33526
33522 Bear with fish
33525
33520
33510 Mark and Laurie
33499
33501
33494 Round House
33487 ³Susans²
³Bent Lodge²
33478 The Mar Tree House
33474
33470 under construction
33466
33460
33450 ³Taylor¹s²
33429
33436 ³Gasthof Auerswald²
33424
33356
33350
33346 ³Rainey Day Getaway²
33338
33237
33257
33265
33271
33279
33285
33298 White Saturn is okay
Yellow house with white trim and new deck across fro ski slope
San Antonio (Homes with no visible damage)
33512
33514
33517
33570
Red house on corner of San Antonio and dirt drive
Big house newly build (Succa?)
Log cabin tucked back near newly build big house
Falling Leaf (Homes with no visible damage)
33321
33322
33318
33351
Street sign ³E. Second St. 300²
33407
33415
33435
33439
33443
33451 Landeems
33461
33465
33499
33519
33567
33579
33342 Grey house
House next door with chain across
drive sign says ³please stay off deck
no parking²
Shingle house 2/ Burgundy trim
33378
Robin¹s House
33408
33424
33428
33440
33444 ³Johnson¹s²
33458 Notary sign
33460
33510
33532 Red and Green
33536
33544
33574
33580
33588
Ridge Drive (Homes with no visible damage)
33719
33709
33720
33766 ³Chavarin²
Huckabees on Piedras Grande has no visible damage
Juniper (last 2 houses without damage)
32938
32937
Everything else from 32933 and 32934 is gone
Holcomb Creek (Homes with significant damage)
33354 (at Yukon)
Poetry Cabin
3344
33131
33135
33139
33143
33149
Meadow had 3 houses burned but no
addresses. Everything else looked fine.
33135 Green Valley Lake Rd Brown house
with blue trim (no visible damage)
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| Fri 10/26 |
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SO is reporting a flare up at 31070 (Old?) City Creek Road (Running Springs)
(NOTE: Dispatcher said Old City Creek Road) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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Adam Aleman, spokesman for the San Bernardino County Assessor's
office, says a partial list of burned homes will be posted at
www.sbassessor.org sometime after 2 pm today. He says 150 homes in
Running Springs and Lake Arrowhead will be on the list. He says the
list will be expanded as more information comes in. Homeowners may
also call the assessor's office at 877-885-7654. |
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Press release from SB County Fire: Meetings Scheduled for Orange Show and Victorville Evacuation Centers
An informational meeting is scheduled for 7 p.m. tonight at the National Orange Show and Victorville Fairgrounds evacuation centers to brief residents of the evacuated areas on the progress of firefighting efforts and display maps of properties damaged or destroyed by the fires.
The meeting is intended only for people who have been evacuated from the fire areas.
The meetings are designed to provide people at the evacuation centers the current update about the firefighting efforts underway for both fires. The latest information about re-entry plans and schedules as well as resources available to assist displaced homeowners will also be shared.
The meetings will also mark the first official release of information about properties damaged or destroyed by the fires. At the direction of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, grief counselors and other professionals who can offer assistance to victims will be on-hand to help families who have lost their homes.
“Our goal is to try to get as much information as we have to the people displaced at these centers,” said Dan Kleinman, Deputy Incident Commander from Cal Team 1. “We know that everyone has been through a very difficult time. We want to provide the resources so that people can start rebuilding their lives”
Residents and property owners who do not plan to attend tonight’s meetings can obtain information about their properties by calling the 211 assistance line no sooner than 7 p.m. tonight. Counselors and other forms of assistance will be available on the 211 line. People calling from outside the county can access 211 by calling 1-888-435-7565.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: San Bernardino Sun |
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From SB Sun website, posted 9:40 a.m.:
Uffer Directs OES to Release Info on Lost Homes.
The following is an e-mail from County Administrative Officer Mark Uffer to the five members of the Board of Supervisors, their chiefs of staff, county emergency services officials and the Assessor's Office, regarding the release of information about wildfire damage to homes in the San Bernardino Mountains.
Hopefully, this clears up what has become a confusing situation.
Uffer's e-mail reads:
"The County Administrative office under the direction of the Board of Supervisors has directed the County Fire Department Office of Emergency Services, Emergency Operations Center, to manage the process of releasing property damage and loss information in the manner that has been customary to the organization.
In an effort to provide the necessary support services to those residents suffering catastrophic losses no information is to be posted online, as this will potentially undermine the residents use of the Local Assistance Center being operated by the County in conjunction with FEMA.
As has been customary, the organization attempts to deliver this very sensitive information in person so as to provide the necessary grief counseling and support services to those affected."
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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Visit blog at www.ktlanewsblog.com (RS Transcriber note: thank you for sending this information!)
San Bernardino County will finally
release information tonight on which
homes were destroyed by the two fires
burning in the mountains.
A damage briefing will be held tonight
(Friday 10/26) at 7pm at the Orange
Show Fairgrounds, located on Arrowhead
between Mills and Orange Show.
San Bernardino County spokesman David
Wert says detailed maps of affected
neighborhoods will be posted. Grief
counselors will be on hand to talk to
people who will find out their homes
are gone.
Wert says homeowners who cannot attend
the meeting can call 211 after 7PM
tonight to find out the status of their
homes. Out-of-town homeowners may dial
888-435-7565 for information, again
after 7 PM.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: ROTWUSD via email - thank you |
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Fire Update - Friday, Oct. 26
All schools and facilities are currently fine!
Employee Payroll:
Direct Deposit: Direct Deposit payroll is on schedule and automatic deposits will occur as normal. Business Services will hold the paystubs for direct deposit employees.
Hard Copy Checks: If we are still closed next week, Business Services will be dispersing hard copy checks, for those employees who do not have direct deposit, for the coming payroll period at the San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools [SBCSS] - Roy C. Hill Building as follows:
Oct. 31 from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. = Classified Employees
Nov. 1 from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. = Certificated Employees
Signs will be posted in the lobby to direct employees to the correct room to obtain their checks.
The San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools Building is located at: 601 North E Street, San Bernardino, 92410
Phone: 909-386-2784
School Blogs for communication during fire closures
A blog has been created for each school. Staff and community members can post messages to communicate with each other during this time. Click on the name of the school to be directed to the specific school's blog. You will need to create an account in Blogspot using your email address.
visit http://www.rimsd.k12.ca.us/ |
| Fri 10/26 |
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173 and Hook - quite a bit of civilian traffic here |
| Fri 10/26 |
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Website |
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Grass Valley Fire - Estimated Containment Date 10/28/2007 (per Inciweb) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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from inciweb at approx 11:30 re: Miller Canyon: "Good progress was made on line construction and burning out in the Miller Canyon drainage." |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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Just wanted to let you know I phoned 911 from east end of lake silverwood, pretty serious front maybe half mile long on east end of miller canyon.
An airplane flew over a few minutes later in that direction.
Let's not go to sleep, Miller canyon could sucker punch cpp and voe, depending on the winds.
Also confirmation, left cpp this am, no problem with getting a pass, went to Victorville, and returned.
But ID must have street address, no po box. That is what the sheriff said, anyway. (*RS Transcriber note: we're not asleep, very little sleep since this started actually. We definitely appreciate the emails we are receiving that provide valuable information. Keep up the good work!) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Website - KBHR933.com |
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NOON UPDATE http://www.kbhr933.com/bigbearnews.php Fire Crews Concentrated Near Snow Valley; Big Bear Events and Closures -- Update as of Noon
The updated reports on the Slide and Grass Valley Fires, as of this morning, is that they have achieved improved containment on both fires. Over 2,100 firefighters are at work on both blazes, and the Slide Fire is now at 15% containment on the 13, 378 acre blaze. The Grass Valley Fire is now at 70% containment over 1,100 acres, with an updated structure loss count of 160.
Firefighting crews have concentrated efforts on the 13 Turns section of Highway 18, both day and night, to ensure that the Slide Fire does not cross the highway between Snow Valley Ski Area and Green Valley Lake Road. John Miller of the U.S. Forest Service spoke to us directly from this area this morning, and reports that this is a ground fire, and most trees along the roadway due remain intact. However, the fire did reach the roadway, from about a ¼ mile west of the top of 13 Turns and down to near the Green Vally turnoff. Still, Miller tells KBHR, “There are a ton of crews there, putting out hot spots.” That said, he reassures us, “The threat to Big Bear is minimal.”
There is one hot spot that is reportedly visible from the Highway 38 area, and this is directly north of Snow Valley along the ridgeline. The fire, Miller notes, “is in the timber and that's what's creating all the smoke. It is one concentrated area. Crews are there, and there is aircraft working it as well.”
Given today's blue skies in the Big Bear Valley, we will see columns of smoke but again, Miller says, “The threat to Big Bear is low.”
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| Fri 10/26 |
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Diverting a third tanker to the Santiago fire; South Ops would also like to have anything else on hold (to respond to Santiago.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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South ops is looking for anything we can divert. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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34269 Inspiration (Running Springs) Security Check |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Tankers on hold; I think we have three more loads of work and I think we're done with them. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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Inciweb Noon - Slide: The fire has the potential to move to the north towards the Pacific Crest Trail and south in the Fredalba Creek area.
Containment Target Anticipate success with a perimeter control strategy as critical resources begin to arrive.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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If you guys can avoid flying directly over Mesa (Division M?) I'd appreciate it. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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It's looking pretty good except for that one spot (to the east). Tankers may be put on hold. 2 tankers diverted to Santiago fire. Reloads have to be at Fox as we have a Bonanza (aircraft) blocking the runway that blew a tire. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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I'm not sure what that spot is over there to the east, but I'm thinking we can put some of these tankers on hold now. (Two tankers are being diverted to the Santiago fire.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Big Bear MWD |
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Press Release from Big Bear Municipal Water District: For Immediate Release
October 26, 2007
11:45 AM
Big Bear Lake Closure – Effective 11:30 AM this morning the Super Scooper has been released from operations on Big Bear Lake. The lake is now open for all lake activities. The Big Bear Municipal Water District appreciates everyone’s understanding and cooperation during the closure. The District and the rest of the valley consider it a privilege to have been of some assistance to our neighbors who have suffered and continue to suffer from the wildfires.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: RS via email - Thank you |
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Running Springs:
My connection just drove through the following:
Mountain Oak & Glen Oak - VERY clean,
no damage! Not even ground fire damage observed!
Panorama Drive - Looked clean from the
18. Will be doing a drive through
Panorama shortly.
Drove across the rim as far as Snow
Valley and NO visible flames. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
From: Dispatch 151.4450 |
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| Fri 10/26 |
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"Be advised that the area is at risk. He (an official posing as a civilian?) was able to get around all the road blocks and get into the mandatory evac areas. He said there have been over 200 homes broken into." |
| Fri 10/26 |
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*Now join together in a moment of silence.* (gave names of firefighters) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Forest Lawn Scout Reservation |
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http://www.boyscoutsla.org/website/home_page/FLSR_fire/updates.htm |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
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Note: The Mail Pickup site at 195 Del Rosa Avenue, San Bernardino, CA on the former Norton Air Force Base will be open on Saturday from 10am to 4pm. |
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Note: At noon today all firefighters on the lines will be pausing for a moment of silence to honor the memory of the five firefighters from BDF Engine 57 who were killed fighting the Esparanza fire one year ago today. Those firefighters were: Fire Captain Mark Loutzenhiser; Engineers Jason McKay and Jess McLean; Firefighters Daniel Hoover-Najera and Pablo Cerda. The men were killed when overrun by fire while doing structure protection in the community of Twin Pines, near Cabazon. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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H510 is available at the helibase so far. 534 is on Heaps Peak. 554 is on a cargo mission in Div G. 263 was in Div H (another in Div H) 725 is in Div V and a Helco |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Checking an individual in the Lk. Arrhd Village area, black pants and shirt, over by the Animal Control set-up. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Helicopter 769 is working his way in and out as needed; making his passes |
| Fri 10/26 |
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"There isn't much going on - we got one little burn-out, if you fly over I think you'll see that." |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Be advised an individual came into the Starbucks with matches and gasoline. He has been arrested and is at the Sheriffs Substation. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: via email - thank you |
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Tankers are coming again, notify San Bernardino base. They will get the retardant line laid down. They had shut down because of too many helicopters in the flight path. One helio will be allowed to stay for dozer support. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
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Pulling one copter off that dozer line and sending it to a spot fire in Division Y. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: ROTW Photo Gallery |
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**Warning - this shows both saved and burned areas - specific homes and streets.** Grass & Slide Fire Home Survey
http://tinyurl.com/2tqt3g
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| Fri 10/26 |
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"The dozers are fine in there, but I'd sure like to get this retardant line put in. I'd really like to stay ahead of it." |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Transcriber note: There is very little scanner traffic except coordination of Air Attack and they are not giving geographic locations of where they are working, for reference. |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: eyewitness |
From: Blue Jay-via email |
To: thank you |
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still in Blue Jay,smoke only when a marine layer comes down the aqua fira canyon. power back on in the upper bear little track for now. we are behind Jensens market |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Requesting two helicopters to work Division Victor, over in the Crab Flats area where there are houses. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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"The Super Scooper has turned back toward Fox (airfield)." (BB Transcriber note - unsure if this is for fueling or being taken off incident.) (RS Transcriber note - heard "released".) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
From: MCH- via email |
To: Thank you |
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Mountains Community Hospital has
reopened the Emergency Department for
services to the Community and to the
Disaster Personnel on the mountain. We
are available 24/7 in that area. We
have the ED staffed with an ED
Physician and Nurse. We have
diagnostic services available to
support the ED. We are not open for In
patient Services at this time, but are
in contact with the EOC and plan to
reopen that area as soon as we get
approval. Please do not hesitate to
call or come to the ED if you have any
concerns:
Hospital #: 909- 336-3651
29101 Hospital Road, Lake Arrowhead |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Air attack: Helicopter 715, we're going to send you back over to the Grass fire, Division Zulu. (AA giving helicopter directions to the Grass incident; unfamiliar after having worked the Slide incident yesterday.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: scanner |
From: Crestline-via email |
To: Thank you |
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There will be a town hall meeting at the San Moritz Lodge adjacent to Lake Gregory starting at 2 P.M. this Saturday (Tomorrow). This will includes representitives from Crest Forest Fire, San Bernardino County Sheriff, and other agencies. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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vehicle check Hilltop at Panorama Drive (Running Springs) Response: Vehicle does come back registered to a female at that 20 (address). |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: Crestline Chamber website |
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FIRE UPDATE 10-26-07 8:31 A.M.
CRESTLINE IS NOW OPEN TO RESIDENTS!!!
Our community is now under a status of Voluntary Evacuation which will allow residents to return with a pass issued by the San Bernardino County Sheriffs Department. This may be obtained at Wildwood Park on Waterman (Hwy 18) in San Bernardino. There will be no access to Lake Arrowhead or Running Springs communities until further notice.
TOWN HALL MEETING
We are scheduling a town hall meeting for tomorrow afternoon. We will be updating the website in a few minutes with details.
We are building a collection of photos (videos coming soon) related to the Grass Fire including photos. Send your photos to info@crestlinechamber.net
For updated information minute to minute please go to the Rimoftheworld.net website at http://www.rimoftheworld.net or call the National Forest Service Hotline at (909)383-5688
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| Fri 10/26 |
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Ground to air: You're going to see a drainage that runs right into town there, we've got some hot spot work in there for the heavies (helicopters). |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Discussion of a new hot spot (did not state location), "If we can get the Scooper on that we can knock it out in no time." |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: via email |
To: thank you |
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They are planning an all out priority on the Boy Scout Camp this morning with tankers dropping water and retardant. This will be a big help for the Arrowhead area.
Tanker pilot talking to MSNBC helio asked them to tell everyone they were using the tankers. They said that CNN really trashed the tankers last night saying they were not being used.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Crab Flats - via email |
To: thank you |
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Some of the residences in theTrails End portion of Crab Flats have burned. I have confirmation that at least 5 are standing but there are probably more. Fire teams with air support are on the scene as of yesterday.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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Air ops discussing separation of frequencies for fixed wing versus rotary wing, air tactics will remain on 131.575 for now. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Air Attack: We haven't been to this fire or this area, what's out best dip site? |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Ground to air: I need you to get in there and take a look at the area of the Boy Scout camp - when you get over it give me a call. ("That's a new smoke out there.") |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: Website - KBHR933.com |
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9 a.m. update
http://www.kbhr933.com/bigbearnews.php
Good News: Slide Fire 15% Contained, Grass Valley Fire 70% Contained --
We have good news to report from Incident Command on the Grass Valley and Slide Fire, both of which started Monday morning.
The Grass Valley Fire, which has burned northwest of the Lake Arrowhead area, is now at 70% containment, as of Thursday night. Reports from the U.S. Forest Service tell us that 780 firefighters continue to make good progress on line construction in the Miller Canyon drainage, as well as mop up in the northern and eastern flanks of the fire. Damage assessment teams were able to enter the area, reporting no additional structures, beyond the earlier assessment of 100 plus structures, have burned. Details are said to be released soon. Large scale evacuations and road closures remain in effect surrounding the entire perimeter of the burn area. Firefighting crews, under the direction of Type I and Type II national incident management teams have managed to keep the burn area on the Grass Valley Fire to 1,100 acres.
On the Slide Fire, centered in the Green Valley Lake and Running Springs area, is now at 15% containment, up from yesterday morning's zero percent. At present, official reports indicate that 11,675 acres have burned, and the fire is burning in southwest direction. Over 1,300 personnel are assigned specifically to the Slide Fire and crews report a moderate fire intensity surface fire, backing, occasional torching and short-range spotting. Additional structures were reported lost, with structure protection continuing along Highway 18 and Green Valley. Damage assessment teams are starting to work in the area to provided details on structures destroyed. Incident Command reports that specifics on structures destroyed will be verified and details released soon, though the present count remains at 200 plus at this time. Fire perimeter containment efforts on the Slide Fire are slow due to rough terrain, heavy vegetation and high density residential properties intermixed with bug-killed timber.
Mandatory evacuations remain in place for all communities from west of Big Bear Lake to east of Crestline. Incident Command stresses that Big Bear is not an evacuation area, and that evacuation and road specifics are “seriously re-evaluated by fire managers on a daily basis.”
Big Bear Lake will remain closed to boating activity today, per a directive from the Municipal Water District. Today's closure of the lake will allow for safe water pulls for aircraft using lake water for fire suppression. Scott Heule, General Manager of the MWD says, “We totally appreciate the cooperation we've received from boaters.”
Due to the smoke and resulting poor air quality, the Bear Valley Unified School District has canceled school for today, and this closure will apply to all extra-curricular activities, including this evening's Big Bear High School performance at the PAC. Rainbow Kids Club will be open today, despite the school closure, though parents of Rainbow Kids are reminded that only the Big Bear Elementary School site will be open.
The highways at the east end of the Valley remain open to all traffic, and the California Highway Patrol confirms that there are no checkpoints to enter Big Bear from Highway 38 or Highway 18 from Lucerne Valley.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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Air Attack 15: Visbility right now is less than it was a minute ago, maybe 3 miles, but we're ready to load if you want us to. "They (Big Bear?) have a tower there now, (freq is) 122.975 if this will be any help to the tankers." |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Air ops: Pilots are advising they are enroute to the Slide incident but may have to abort if the smoke gets too bad, they will advise. (Air Attack 15 was reporting 4 miles visibility from San Bernardino tanker base, but this will change over the fire.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Advise air attack that it's a little shrouded in smoke out here, it's VFR (visual flight rated) but it's kinda smokey. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Slide air attack: Have four tankers enroute to (lat and long) 34.190 x 117.01; "Will this be the Slide side or the Grass side?" "It will be the slide side." |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Slide air attack, just checking to see if you're ready for the tankers. (Response: Affirm, just a couple more minutes here, just a couple more minutes.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Directing out-of-area hand crews to Lakeview Point and up into the area above the Arctic Circle. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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(Note to Bear Valley residents: There will be a sheriff's helicopter working the Sugarloaf area on a missing person search; it has nothing to do with fire activity.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Suspicious vehicle: Black Chevy Silverado pickup, license 8J06298, last seen heading into downtown Running Springs from Hwy18/Wilderness; units enroute to check him out. (Unit now has him detained at the Calvalry Chapel; individual is with BLM and looking for a location to park a fire truck, Code 4.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Transcriber observation: Police and fire units are running numerous license plates in the evacuation areas this morning; it appears they are checking most anyone out and about; so far all have been 'Code 4' (okay). |
| Fri 10/26 |
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Air to ground discussion about the Crab Flats area; want to start out working the east and then the south flank. |
| Fri 10/26 |
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(Units responded to a smoke check in the Baldwin Lake area (Big Bear) and are reporting there is a heavy concentration of drift smoke from the Slide/Grass in the area, there is NO fire in Baldwin Lake.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: KTLA news |
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CRESTLINE RESIDENTS MAY RETURN: KTLA news is reporting that residents with proof of residence address will be allowed to return to Crestline after 9:00 this morning. Residents will need a photo ID and proof of street address via driver's license, utility or tax bill, and will be issued a Re-entry pass. To obtain a re-entry pass, residents should go to the checkpoints set up on 40th @ Waterman in San Bernardino, or Hwy 138 at Lake Silverwood. THIS IS FOR CRESTLINE RESIDENTS ONLY. |
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(Transcriber note: There is very little scanner traffic this a.m. - most communication involves reviewing staffing for the day at various stations.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
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From: SCGACC |
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Remarks on Grass fire from USFS situation report 6 p.m. 10/26: Significant Events: Evacuation and road closure orders remain in effect for a large area surrounding the Grass Valley and Slide Fires. Damage assessment teams are working in the Grass Valley Fire area. Good progress was made on line construction and burning out in the Miller Canyon drainage on Divisions Y and Z.
Remarks: Crews continue to make good progress on line construction in the Miller Canyon drainage as well as mop up in Divisions A and Z. IR was flown today. Damage assessment teams continue their work. We are working with cooperating agencies and utilities on planning for re-entry into the mandatory evacuation area.
Observed Fire Behavior: Isolated interior tree torching. Backing, creeping and smoldering.
Planned Actions: Complete line construction, burn out and hold on Divisions Y and Z in the Miller Canyon drainage on the fires western flank. Mop up and patrol in Division A on the fires eastern flank.
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| Fri 10/26 |
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From: SCGACC |
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Remarks on Slide fire from USFS situation report as of 6p.m. 10/25:
Significant Events: Established fireline in portions Divisions F, G & H.
Remarks: Several meetings today: Re-entry planning with coooperators, FS Chief visit, and cost apportionment. Slide ICP moved to Snow Valley Ski Area.
Observed Fire Behavior: Moderate intensity surface fire, backing, occasional torching, short range spotting.
Planned Actions: Continue structure protection, mop and patrol around structures, establishing perimeter control.
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| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: WLF website |
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Wildlandfire.com is reporting that containment on the Grass fire is anticipated for 10/28. (Transcriber note: I cannot confirm this prediction on official sites or sources.) |
| Fri 10/26 |
Source: other |
From: NBC news |
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NBC is reporting that all firefighters on the lines will be pausing for a moment of silence today at noon to honor the memory of the five firefighters from BDF Engine 57 who were killed fighting the Esparanza fire one year ago today. Those firefighters were: Fire Captain Mark Loutzenhiser;
Engineers Jason McKay and Jess McLean;
Firefighters Daniel Hoover-Najera and Pablo Cerda. The men were killed when overrun by fire while doing structure protection in the community of Twin Pines. |
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| Thu 10/25 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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.TONIGHT...
SKY/WEATHER.........CLEAR. AREAS OF SMOKE.
MIN TEMPERATURE.....39 TO 49.
MAX HUMIDITY........35 TO 45 PERCENT ON DESERT SLOPES TO 40 TO 50
PERCENT ON COASTAL SLOPES.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........WINDS WEST 10 MPH.
RIDGETOP.........WINDS WEST 10 MPH IN THE EVENING BECOMING
VARIABLE 3 TO 6 MPH.
LAL.................1.
.FRIDAY...
SKY/WEATHER.........MOSTLY SUNNY. AREAS OF SMOKE.
MAX TEMPERATURE.....72 TO 82.
MIN HUMIDITY........10 TO 15 PERCENT.
WIND (20 FT)........
SLOPES...........WINDS SOUTH 10 MPH.
RIDGETOP.........VARIABLE 3 TO 6 MPH BECOMING SOUTH 10 MPH IN
THE AFTERNOON.
LAL.................1.
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| Thu 10/25 |
Source: other |
From: Website |
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830 PM PDT THU OCT 25 2007
.DISCUSSION...
NO PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 10 DAYS. FAIR
WITH WEAKER WINDS THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. TEMPERATURES WILL
GRADUALLY COOL THROUGH SATURDAY...WARM SUNDAY THROUGH EARLY NEXT
WEEK...THEN COOL AGAIN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. HUMIDITIES WILL
SLOWLY INCREASE THROUGH SATURDAY...DECREASE SLIGHTLY SUNDAY THROUGH
EARLY NEXT WEEK...THEN INCREASE AGAIN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK THERE WILL ERRATIC WINDS AND LOCAL EFFECTS NEAR THE WILDFIRES. FIRE
CREWS WILL NEED TO STAY ALERT TO POSSIBLE WIND REVERSALS AND ERRATIC
CONDITIONS.
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| Thu 10/25 |
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"I'm here in Running Springs and I have nicotine, hot coffee, hot chocolate, creamer, we're ready to rock" |
| Thu 10/25 |
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county roads - we are done already in hook creek- we are going to be staging at the post office untill you need us, ok clear |
| Thu 10/25 |
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From: ROTW Google Group |
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(Lots of posts - 4pm Thursday: Confirmed houses that are still standing and ones that have been destroyed... Copy and paste the following link: http://tinyurl.com/3cuvq3
{RS Transcriber Personal Note: The 7:44 PM post is well worth reading - specifically the last paragraph.} |
| Thu 10/25 |
Source: other |
From: via ROTW Google Group |
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{*Warning - video shows both burned as well as those not burned} - Lake Arrowhead -
"New Video of fire devestation in grass valley w/ saved homes on san benito ln" http://www.metacafe.com/watch/886517/fire_devastation_in_lake_arrowhead_california/ |
| Thu 10/25 |
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right at the corner of Chicago and Encina {RS} that tree was dropped; all the {power} lines are dead |
| Thu 10/25 |
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From: Website |
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{Terminology: Containment/Control
A fire is contained when it is surrounded on all sides by some kind of boundary but is still burning and has the potential to jump a boundary line. The boundary may be a “fire line” which is a strip of area where the vegetation has been removed to deny the fire fuel, or a river, a freeway or some other barrier which is expected to stop the fire. Hose lines from fire engines may also contribute to a fire being surrounded and contained. A fire is controlled when there is no further threat of it jumping a containment line. While crews continue to do mop-up work within the fire lines, the fire fight is over.} |
| Thu 10/25 |
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26400 Augusta in Lake Arrowhead - security check |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Station 51 Bay Doors are open; should we close the bay doors? No, our engines will be traveling back and forth all night long. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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we were patrolling at 3112 Bluebird (off Pine Cone - Running Springs) and there are spot fires northwest of the residence. There's a fire truck out here - we just spoke to them. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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We've walked Deep Creek from Palo Alto all the way over; it's pretty much cold all the way. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Let someone through and he's on his way towards you (I'm at 18 and Live Oak). He's in a White Jeep Commander - claiming he's working for the fire; he has a Nevada driver's license and Texas plates. Need to determine who he's attached to or if he's a looky loo. They saw him at the 173/18 and he's heading towards Running Springs. White Jeep Commander - I'm at 18 at Live Oak I'll keep an eye out for him. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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From: Website |
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Inciweb 8:30 update: Grass fire:
Fire Behavior Isolated interior tree torching. Backing, creeping and smoldering.
Complete line construction, burn out and hold in the Miller Canyon drainage on the fires western flank. Mop up and patrol on the fires eastern flank.
There is no anticipated incident movement, or perimeter growth during this operational period.
Containment Target Given adequate resources and favorable weather conditions, the chosen strategy is likely to succeed. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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we're up here on Deep Creek by the burned down houses; we have gas leaks |
| Thu 10/25 |
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reports of subjects looting the store at Round Table Pizza (Forest Shade, Crestline); there is nobody around here and the store is locked up tight |
| Thu 10/25 |
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31#49 Panorama Drive - Security Check {sorry - someone talked over him when he said that middle number} |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Passes are only for VOE and CPP; we are not allowing anyone into Crestline yet. Go to the hard closure points and make friends and let them know that we are not letting people into Crestline. We will be yanking those passes and telling them to go back down. Affirm, I will go make friends. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Edison Station - Palo Alto and Whispering Pines - medical aid; laceration to leg |
| Thu 10/25 |
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We caught him for you Capt {}; we'll bring him back for you. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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We picked up this 20 year old gang banger here hiding in the bushes; are you guys hanging on to them over there or what are we doing with them? Hang on to him and we'll take care of him. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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the fire is at {} Big Horn northern east northerly slope; talked to crews, they know about it; as I was driving down Hook Creek I saw a string of trucks are heading out Hook Creek hopefully to put out the spot fires |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Hook Road and Pine Ridge; suspicious vehicle; Jeep {} driving erratically |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Calgary at North Bay; checking residence, open garage door |
| Thu 10/25 |
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pretty tall snag at the corner of Chicago and ?; be careful going around it; it's burned out in the middle and leaning and could go down at any time |
| Thu 10/25 |
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We're up here with Edison just checking it out. Poles are down we're going to have to walk in. |
| Thu 10/25 |
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patrol is going to stay on Deep Creek in this bottom area where it's all burned out |
| Thu 10/25 |
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security check 31449 Overhill Drive - Running Springs |
STATUS OF FIRES
Grass Valley Fire
Location: NW of Lake Arrowhead, and theTwin Peaks area
Acres Burned: 1,100
Direction of Fire: Southwest
Containment: 70 %
Structures Threatened: 6,000
Fire Started: 10/22/07 (Mon) 5:08 AM
Structures Destroyed: Est. 100+ **
Cause: Under Investigation
Resources: Hand Crews: 23 Engines: 72
Helicopters: 2 (both fires) * Water Tenders: 6
Dozers: 3
Total personnel assigned to Grass Valley fire: 780
Current Fire Situation, Grass Valley Fire: Firefighters continue to make good progress on line construction in the Miller Canyon drainage as well as mop up in the northern and eastern flanks of the fire. Damage assessment teams were able to enter the area yesterday, reporting no additional structures burned, details to be released soon. Large scale evacuations and road closures remain in effect surrounding the entire perimeter of the fire area.
Slide Fire
Location: Green Valley Lake, near Running Springs
Acres Burned: 11,675
Direction of Fire: Southwest
Containment: 15%
Structures Threatened: 10,000
Fire Started: 10/22/07 (Mon) 8:02 AM
Structures Destroyed: Est. 200+ **
Cause: Under Investigation
Resources: Hand Crews: 23 Engines: 213
Helicopters: (shared) * Water Tenders: 35
Dozers: 6
Total personnel assigned to Slide fire: 1,359
Current Fire Situation, Slide Fire: Firefighters report moderate fire intensity surface fire, backing, occasional torching, and short-range spotting. Additional structures were reported lost yesterday, with structure protection continuing along Highway 18 and Green Valley. Damage assessment teams are starting to work in the area to provide details on structures destroyed, with dangerous access due to continued fire activity. ** Specifics on structures destroyed will be verified and details to be released soon. Fire perimeter containment efforts slow due to rough terrain, heavy vegetation and high density residential properties intermixed with bug killed timber.
Evacuations & Road Closures: Mandatory Evacuations remain in effect for all communities from west of Big Bear Lake to east of Crestline. Voluntary Evacuations are in effect for Cedar Pines Park, and Valley of Enchantment, with residents allowed access with proof of residency. (Slide Fire: voluntary evacuations are in place for North Highland from East Highland to Weaver Street, and previous the Butler Fire area.) The Big Bear area is NOT an evacuation area. All evacuations and road closures are carefully placed for public and firefighter safety, and are seriously re-evaluated by fire managers on a daily basis. Residents will be updated frequently.
All roadways leading into the San Bernardino Mountains are still closed to up-bound, non-emergency traffic, including Highway 18 west of Big Bear Dam, Hwy 330, Hwy 138 at Hwy 173 and Hwy 18 at Waterman Ave. Hwy 38 and the backside of Hwy 18 from Lucerne Valley are the open access points. Forest Closure Orders continue to be in effect.
Evacuation Centers: National Orange Show Fair Grounds in the City of San Bernardino (enter through Gate 9) and Victorville Fair Grounds. Animal Evacuations: San Bernardino County Humane Society in the City of San Bernardino. Livestock are being accepted at the Rodeo Grounds at Glen Helen Regional Park in Devore
Agencies Involved: Unified Command with cooperators and partners including US Forest Service, San Bernardino County Fire and Sheriff Departments, CAL FIRE, CA CHP, CalTrans, CA-OES, Running Springs FD, and Crest Forest FPD.
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| Thu 10/25 |
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the fire is in the Big Horn end of the Scout Camp (discussion about Crab Creek area) |
| Thu 10/25 |
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Day ops did some burning today and we're going to have to do some more (Grass Valley) |
| Thu 10/25 |
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40K (SO Helicopter) "It's looking pretty good; it's laying down on the ridges; we're good to go tonight." |
| Thu 10/25 |
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40K - It's at the far east end of the Scout Camp and from there it's through Crab Creek; 1/2 mile to 3/4 mile; I don't think you need to come out here right now; very slow movement on it |
| Thu 10/25 |
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we didn't find anything on Dart Canyon, but we do see something at the edge of the Grass Valley burn; it's a burning operation; ok we're going to cancel our response then |
| Thu 10/25 |
Source: scanner |
From: Dispatch 171.4750 |
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Units are in the area checking, so far are unable to locate; reduce to code 2 and stage at Dart Canyon and Orchard |
| Thu 10/25 |
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hold all incoming at Dart Canyon and Orchard |
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To: To Dispatch 151.4450 |
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units are in the area checking |
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